:lol:

You're allowed, brother Uni, you're allowed. If that comforts you, it should be properly valued on its merits. As long as we realize it's just that. Comforting. And I kinda like it, people opposing my views. Better than boring compliance!

That can't be denied. But my physics is rather straight to Earth. What's mystical is the content of matter and the eternity of the gods who created this divine matter.

Now look here brother Uni, without the gods and heaven I wouldn't exist. Without them I wouldn't have the cosmology they revealed to me. Study the universe, life and people and you know heaven, the gods in it, and the people gods in particular.

No science makes effort to discern between what is plausible and what is not. — universeness

So does theism. There is just as much woowoo going on in science as in religion, if not more. Did you make a study?

Possibly true, I didn't know them personally, did you? — universeness

I know what they wrote. Mystics!

Anything your unfettered imagination can come up with. Anything goes in your world of woo woo. — universeness

Like in science!

Is axiology the "study of goodness and values"? Aesthetics included? I used to mix ethics and aesthetics up a lot. "What an evil painting". "What ugly bankrob!" "What a friendly well behaving statue!" "What beautiful murder!"

wrong with being irrational.
— Hillary

It's not rational — universeness

Ooookaaaay.... :lol:

And your alternative offer is god(s) :rofl: Let the people decide! — universeness

Have yoh actually read what I write? If a cosmology is complete, and mine is, what other reason for it's existence can be given than gods?

Neither am I. Especially not by science
— Hillary

Well, I am not suggesting you are Egyptian or anything but you are certainly in DEniAl — universeness

I don't deny anything. You deny the woowoo. Not me. I like woowoo science as well as gods.

All that you are influences all that you do! — universeness

So there is a Jewish science? My dear mother of gods. And dont say I put words in your mouth because that's exactly the same. Capra and Chew are the same mystics. Elementary particles don't exist? Irrational woowoo nonsense. Only interactions count? Woowoo!

All that you are influences all that you do! — universeness

Exactly! That's why you don't understand the gods or mystics. You're brainwashed by science.

No, I am just not easily duped. — universeness

Neither am I. Especially not by science.

It's like Einstein taking advice from a woo woo guru!
12mOptions — universeness

My dear mother god... Why shouldn't he. Like you think, science will never progress. Pointing at the fact of not being peer-reviewed or published, and being afraid to be banned on Quora when the dogma is challenged...

They are opposites, positive and negative, opposites. The rational people and the irrational people (like you), opposites! — universeness

What's wrong with being irrational. The mist irrational thing is a mindless spark!

I will never understand why he associated with a mystic like Jiddu Krishnamurti. — universeness

Because your natural desire for the mystic is suppressed by the ruling powers.

Clever man who sadly, was often very ill and depressed. As I have stated before, I will never understand why he associated with a mystic like Jiddu Krishnamurti. — universeness

What on Earth has that got to do with his physics?

I think he probably does as I think he sees time as not really having fundamental quanta — universeness

As he is into loop gravity, he aims for quantized time.

Many including I think Brian Cox consider gravity to be a result of interaction and not made of a fundamental quantum, such as the graviton. — universeness

Yeah, that's the emergent gravity theory. Erik Verlinde (a weird Dutch guy not responding to any email at all...) has such a "revolutionary" view on gravity (which even got him the Spinoza prize: 2000 000 euro, no kidding! Dear mother of god, for obvious nonsense woowoo!). The theory has it the wrong way round. Its, among other things, based on the ADS/CFT correspondence and entanglement, but it's got things the wrong way round. Dark matter and dark energy are pushed in the wrong closet or better, two equal poles are pushed together.

Gravity is just as well as the 3 basic interactions, is a means for all forms of energy to interact by coupling to virtual gravitons. The problem with gravitons is that they have to curve spacetime as well. A condensate of gravitons around or in between masses is what the masses couple to, but, contrary to the other gauge particles, the gravitons work on the metric of space (and thus time, if the speed of light is finite, too).

What? So for you, North is not opposite South?
I cant debate rationality with an irrational thinker, it's a waste of time. — universeness

My dear brother Uni, listen carefully. The north and and south pole of a magnet exist by virtue of each other. It's you trying to push two like-poles against each other. In reality the north pole (science) and south pole (gods) naturally fall onto each other, making a new powerful dipole, each pole reinforcing the other. How powerful you wantit (want it)?

Chew! — Agent Smith

Haha! Poor Geoffrey.... He could have known he had it coming though.

"I Chew my boots mam. I feel trapped!"

As a matter of fact, that's exactly what's it about!

In a rather simplistic manner a great number of people encapsulate ‘god’ as ‘life’ in general — I like sushi

And why is that simplistic? Life is exactly the reason why gods let life evolve. Life lives exactly the same life as the gods. All temporary, eternally repeating life is a heavenly reflection. Life lives to please the gods, who forgot how to do that.

The term ‘god’ exists. How it is used and what exactly it may or may not be referring to would, by itself, show if any kind of proof was possible. — I like sushi

What kind of proof? You really think they can show up in the material, assuming that's your proof? Of course they can't! What's all that demand of proof? Dear mother of gods...

rather than individual ability to completely disprove the concept of sugar in your porridge being valid, — universeness

:lol:

It's more a matter of subjective taste based on a strongly grounded personal interpretation of the evidence — universeness

As if science doesn't give a personal interpretation. They even try to define how evidence should be interpreted. The haughtiness...

. Opposite sides of a magnet will repel but they can be 'forced together' and held in place.
I suppose I feel the same way about combining the word 'true,' with the word 'religion(s).' — universeness

It's exactly the opposite. It are a north and south pole. Of course, your poles are contrary because you, irrationally, don't believe and are not able to understand it as your inborn religious feeling is beaten into submission be a new theology.

"The bootstrap philosophy abandons not only the idea of fundamental constituents of matter but accepts no fundamental entities whatsoever — no fundamental laws or equations, and not even a fundamental structure of space and time. The universe is seen as a dynamic web of interrelated events. None of the properties of any part of this web are fundamental; they all follow from the properties of the other parts, and the overall consistency of their mutual interrelations determines the structure of the entire web"

I can see why Capra was a fan. Bears eastern philosophy. I think Rovelli likes it. Of course, this doesn't mean elementary particles and space don't exist.

My idol, David Bohm would have liked it. Just read his holographic universe. The universal S-matrix...

Conformal Bootstrap in the Regge Limit

From 2017. Interesting stuff!

The bootstrap was advocated by Fritjof Capra, in the Tao of physics. There was critique on his book because he didn't take the November revolution into account, which showed bootstrap "wrong". But he wasn't wrong. It's a great idea and has been send to oblivion unrightfully. But recently, it got new attention.

It wasn't the S-matrix per se that led to string theory though (though of course in the context). It was the strong interaction, where the force was depicted by elastic strings.

Or

Another North Korea! — Agent Smith

In Druk Yul all people are religious. What about North Korea? The religion of the Supreme Leader, the Great Leader, and the Dear Leader?

We're hallucinating all the time, eventhough unconsciously. For example, matter is, in reality, made up of parts which we hallucinate to be continuous. The What we perceive as reality is actual a hallucination. Not to be confused with optical illusions, like mirages. Mirage effects might be present on larger scale than we think in world domains that we investigate for the first time. Right now, I see the symbols wave and specks of lights flash. Your stable perceptive world is a construction with no substance. If you're thrown in the unknown, you really can't tell reality from hallucination.

Is there a country that can be a full-fledged, authentic, autarky? — Agent Smith

Bhutan.

Ignoring just the Sun and (that massive comet-asteroid deflector) Jupiter – yeah Earth is otherwise (thermodynamically & celestial mechanically) "self-sufficient — 180 Proof

If one ignores the Sun, no life is possible. Nor if you ignore the rest of the universe.

The Big Bang is not the beginning of our universe, it is the end of our understanding — Sean Carroll

He means we don't understand what came before it? "We're working on it!" And the money inflow is ensured. Even for asking him a question (without a guarantee on an answer!) you have to pay 4 dollar... Dear mother of god...

Knowing what's bad doesn't mean we should punish it or eliminate it. Gods created both good and bad. The real horror starts if we want to eliminate "the bad" in the name of.

"Simplicity" ended after the first microsecond after the "big bang". — 180 Proof

No. That's when it started, to culminate right here and now! :rofl:

The Big Bang is not the beginning of our universe, it is the end of our understanding. — Sean Carroll

A confession of ignorance...

But hey, it's Carroll!

Exactly — 180 Proof

If you knew the physics, that should be, exactly not.

Whatever! :rofl:

Brother Smith! T Clark is serious!.... :lol:

My overall point is that nature CAN be explained without g/G — 180 Proof

Which is overally irrational. Explain me where virtual particles in pre-inflationary substrate 4D space come from? Yòu can't say its eternal because both 3D space as TD time emerge on it. So what is the reason for its existence?

morality CAN be justified without g/G — 180 Proof

Subjective morality, yes. Objective morality, no.

"Who asks you anything, lill troll?" :rofl:

What theocratic government has been successful? — Jackson

All cultures besides the western one. The whole world is western. I cant really tell the difference between people in Iran or in Europe. Same streets, same schools, same power plants, same houses, same cars, same hospitals, same airports, harbors, trains, TV programs, etc.