keep it as simple as possible. — Agent Smith
we must find something the whole world agrees on — Agent Smith
This topic was originally about devising an alternative economic system. An alternative to the competitive money system. But it's more about woo-woo than about finding solutions. regrettable — Vincent
Indeed, Europe and America are doomed. But as you know they are bad losers and I fear they want to drag everyone into their conflict.But I guess this would happen in countries which are used to wars and violence. — javi2541997
It is a silent apocalypse — javi2541997
There are many fringe 'scientists,' who can find evidence for anything you like, even gods — universeness
In system x1, problem p1 arises. We then develop system x2 to solve problem p1. What happens next is that system x2 has a new problem p2. A new system x3 is needed which will have its very own problem p3. — Agent Smith
:rofl: No offence, but this sounds like something the 'rapture' theists would approve of. Pure woo woo. — universeness
I take the longer view. Never mind the 'year,' humans are not 'over' yet, that is what is important. — universeness
Yeah she knows. I kissed a guy in the street once, full on the mouth, during Corona! He was trying to stop a fight about to erupt between me and that f^%&^%ng neighbor of mine. She didn't like it... — Hillary
We'll see, the year isn't over yet.Thankfully many and hopefully most of your fellow humans have a more optimistic viewpoint. — universeness
'United we stand divided we fall.'
'People of the world UNITE! — universeness
I think basically all human inventions have that property. — Hillary
Indeed. But the problem is that the money system gives the opportunity to enslave a population. As long as there is money in the world, there will always be people who will misuse it to oppress. Without money, people are less likely to do so. We all want to be free, right?Money can set free and enslave, dependent on the users. — Hillary
We can use this problem as a solution. We can use these engines to build more environmentally friendly engines. Oil supplies are also running out. So we can use these old technologies to develop new technologies.1. Sometimes, the tool is the problem. Fossil fuel based engines for example. — Agent Smith
2. Sometimes, the tool user is the problem. Replace money with x. Money has been removed, but people are the same. The problem will resurface immediately or later, but it will resurface. — Agent Smith
The proposal - abolish money - is too extremist. — Agent Smith
Too, human nature doesn't take too kindly to things with zero utility. — Agent Smith
Do you ever compare your 32 years with the proposed 13.8 billion since the big bang?
So far, you and I are tiny wee blips in the cosmic calender scale — universeness
You lost me! — Agent Smith
I wonder what kinda personality a soothsayer worth their salt has. Gloomy Gus-Nervous Nelly OR Dr. Pangloss-Polyanna? — Agent Smith
Which personality is more likely to make correct predictions? — Agent Smith
I wonder how well those people who called you an idiot really know you. — universeness
how much effort did you make, to help them understand you better? — universeness
Yes, I said that. But it was part of a play I performed to join the atheist belief and make them admit their own defeat. I started rather pompously, and universeness sensed my play very well. I continued though and almost succeeded, hadn't I revealed the play too early. I couldn't resist when he said that "we surely had many exchanges before", which he said because that wasn't yet the case. And indeed, we have had many many discussions here before.. So I answered, "I think so too!", which settled the score. But I wonder where we would be if I hadn't revealed. I almost got him over! But the clown in me got the upper hand. Again.. — Hillary
What do you think about the idea of democracy? Does democracy have a place in a free world or will democracy be outlawed? If there is democracy then necessarily some people will ‘lose out’ for the great good of the masses. Is this okay? To what extent? — I like sushi
Other than that I just want to point out that ‘absolute freedom’ means ‘absolute responsibility’. No one sane wants to even attempt to take on that burden. — I like sushi
As for robots and AI you will many people here who would point out several things including the need for humans to feel useful, the fact that there are now billions more people on Earth now than compared to preindustrial times and that your view seems to frame ‘freedom’ as having more leisure time? You have surely heard of people who won the lottery returning to their ‘mundane’ jobs. People like people, and people like to work with people on something. — I like sushi
Clearly I think your view is a bit naive or maybe overly idealistic/simplistic. That is my first impression — I like sushi
Pure freedom would be quite a brutal way to live btw - see above for murder. Freedom at no cost is not freedom. I cannot possibly see how it could be. If you believe it can come at no cost then explain how please. — I like sushi