This thread itself is not even philosophical. — Lionino

Language doesn't think about itself. — creativesoul

In fact, go ahead and feed ChatGPT a bunch of texts, it will tell you which is philosophy and which is not. — Lionino

But they are not developing a definition of "dog". — Ludwig V

# Load the Haar cascade for face detection
face_cascade = cv2.CascadeClassifier(cv2.data.haarcascades + 
             'haarcascade_frontalface_default.xml')
 
# Read the input image
img = cv2.imread(filename)
 
# Convert the image to grayscale
gray = cv2.cvtColor(img, cv2.COLOR_BGR2GRAY)
 
# Perform face detection
faces = face_cascade.detectMultiScale(gray, scaleFactor=1.1, 
      minNeighbors=4, minSize=(20, 20))
 
# Draw rectangles around the detected faces
for (x, y, w, h) in faces:
    cv2.rectangle(img, (x, y), (x+w, y+h), (255, 0, 0), 2)

Since the technique developed by Paul Viola and Michael Jones in 2001, Haar features and Haar cascades have revolutionized object detection.

Haar features are extracted from rectangular areas in an image. The feature’s value is based on the pixel intensities. Usually, it is calculated using a sliding window, and the area within the window is partitioned into two or more rectangular areas. Haar feature is the difference in the sum of pixel intensities between these areas.

It is believed that an object’s presence will distort the variation of pixel intensity. By checking the pixel intensity between neighboring rectangular areas, you should be able to notice a difference. Hence it is indicative of the object’s presence.

The key idea behind Haar cascade is that only a small number of pixels among the entire image is related to the object in concern. Therefore, it is essential to discard the irrelevant part of the image as quickly as possible.

Personally speaking I think of 'Philosophy' as essentially meaning "ways of thinking about ..." rather than "love of knowledge," which is too question begging for me. — I like sushi

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_philosophy

Another characterization of philosophy sometimes found in the literature is that, at least in principle, it does not take any facts for granted and allows any presupposition to be questioned, including its own methods.[7][11] This is reflected in the fact that philosophy has no solid foundations to build on since whatever foundations one philosopher accepts may be questioned by another.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy

Another definition characterizes philosophy as thinking about thinking to emphasize its self-critical, reflective nature.

Overgaard, Søren; Gilbert, Paul; Burwood, Stephen (2013). "What Is Philosophy?". An Introduction to Metaphilosophy. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 978-0-521-19341-2.

Statements don't talk. — creativesoul

I suspect
"a foundational crises in mathematics"
— jgill
is to be understood as "I don't get it!" — Banno

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Foundations_of_Arithmetic

The Foundations of Arithmetic (German: Die Grundlagen der Arithmetik) is a book by Gottlob Frege, published in 1884, which investigates the philosophical foundations of arithmetic.

Although Bertrand Russell later found a major flaw in Frege's Basic Law V (this flaw is known as Russell's paradox, which is resolved by axiomatic set theory), the book was influential in subsequent developments, such as Principia Mathematica.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_paradox

Russell wrote to Frege about the paradox just as Frege was preparing the second volume of his Grundgesetze der Arithmetik.

Frege then wrote an appendix admitting to the paradox,[17] and proposed a solution that Russell would endorse in his Principles of Mathematics,[18] but was later considered by some to be unsatisfactory.[19]

I was just commenting on your referring to "a foundational crises in mathematics". I doubt many mathematicians would agree there is a "crises". Concerns perhaps. — jgill

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_mathematics

The foundational crisis of mathematics arose at the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century with the discovery of several paradoxes or counter-intuitive results.

Several schools of philosophy of mathematics were challenged with these problems in the 20th century, and are described below.

These problems were also studied by mathematicians, and this led to establish mathematical logic as a new area of mathematics,

Ferreiros, J. (2008), Gowers, Timothy (ed.), "The Crisis in the Foundations of Mathematics", Princeton Companion to Mathematics, Princeton University Press, retrieved 2022-08-26

Robič, Borut (2015), Robič, Borut (ed.), "The Foundational Crisis of Mathematics", The Foundations of Computability Theory, Berlin, Heidelberg: Springer, pp. 9–30, doi:10.1007/978-3-662-44808-3_2, ISBN 978-3-662-44808-3, S2CID 124817202, retrieved 2022-08-26

How is all this relevant for defining philosophy? How is this the relevant to philosophy in any way? — Ludwig V

Here we go again, assuming a stroll along an uneven path is the same as wandering through a minefield. — jgill

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/computational-philosophy/

Computational philosophy is the use of mechanized computational techniques to instantiate, extend, and amplify philosophical research. Computational philosophy is not philosophy of computers or computational techniques; it is rather philosophy using computers and computational techniques. The idea is simply to apply advances in computer technology and techniques to advance discovery, exploration and argument within any philosophical area.

There is one extremely promising area in need of development within computational philosophy, though that area may also call for changes in conceptions of philosophy itself. Philosophy has classically been conceived as abstract rather than concrete, as seeking understanding at the most general level rather than specific prediction or retrodiction, often normative, and as operating in terms of logical argument and analysis rather than empirical data. The last of these characteristics, and to some extent the first, will have to be qualified if computational philosophy grows to incorporate a major batch of contemporary techniques: those related to big data.

Benzmüller, Christoph and David Fuenmayor, 2018, “Can Computers Help to Sharpen Our Understanding of Ontological Arguments?” in S. Gosh, R. Uppalari, K. Rao, V. Agarwal, and S. Sharma (eds.), Mathematics and Reality: Proceedings of the 11th All Indian Students’ Conference on Science and Spiritual Quest (AISSQ), Bhudabenswar, Kolkata: The Bhaktiedanta Institute, pp. 195–226.

Dennett, Daniel, 1979, “Artificial Intelligence as Philosophy and as Psychology”, in Philosophical Perspectives in Artificial Intelligence, Martin Ringle (ed.), Atlantic Highlands, NJ: Humanities Press, pp. 57–80.

Fitelson, Branden and Edward N. Zalta, 2007, “Steps Toward a Computational Metaphysics”, Journal of Philosophical Logic, 36(2): 227–247. doi:10.1007/s10992-006-9038-7

Grim, Patrick, Gary R. Mar, and Paul St. Denis, 1998, The Philosophical Computer: Exploratory Essays in Philosophical Computer Modeling, Cambridge MA: MIT Press.

Horner, Jack K., 2019, “A Computationally Assisted Reconstruction of an Ontological Argument in Spinoza’s The Ethics”, Open Philosophy, (special issue on computational philosophy) 2(1): 211–229. doi:10.1515/opphil-2019-0012

Kirchner, Daniel, Christoph Benzmüller, and Edward N. Zalta, 2019, “Computer Science and Metaphysics: A Cross-Fertilization”, Open Philosophy, (special issue on computational philosophy) 2(1): 230–251. doi:10.1515/opphil-2019-0015

Oppenheimer, Paul E. and Edward N. Zalta, 2011, “A Computationally-Discovered Simplification of the Ontological Argument”, Australasian Journal of Philosophy, 89(2): 333–349. doi:10.1080/00048401003674482

Pence, Charles H. and Grant Ramsey, 2018, “How to Do Digital Philosophy of Science”, Philosophy of Science, 85(5): 930–941. doi:10.1086/699697

Rushby, John, 2018, “A Mechanically Assisted Examination of Begging the Question in Anselm’s Ontological Argument”, Journal of Applied Logics, 5(7): 1473–1496.

Shults, F. LeRon, 2019, “Computer Modeling in Philosophy of Religion”, Open Philosophy, (special issue on computer modeling in philosophy) 2(1): 108–125. doi:10.1515/opphil-2019-0011

Thagard, Paul, 1988, Computational Philosophy of Science, Cambridge MA: MIT Press.

Van Den Hoven, Jeroen and Gert‐Jan Lokhorst, 2002, “Deontic Logic and Computer‐Supported Computer Ethics”, Metaphilosophy, 33(3): 376–386. doi:10.1111/1467-9973.00233

Wheeler, Billy, 2019, “Computer Simulations in Metaphysics: Possibilities and Limitations,” Manuscrito, 42(3): 108–148

Who decides what behaviour is problematic or when the dog's well-being is undermined? Not the machine, that's for sure. It may save donkey-work, but it isn't capable of telling us anything we don't know. — Ludwig V

The word philosophy doesn't have to be computable any more than the word 'dog' does. — Lionino

https://www.cvedia.com/animal-detection

Animal and wildlife detection using CVEDIA-RT.

Deep learning powered by synthetic data

What is animal detection ‍using deep learning.

Animal detection involves finding wildlife or pets in photos or videos. Traditional computer vision techniques, such as motion detection, caused false alarms and drained camera batteries, but deep learning has improved accuracy and added the ability to classify animal species. This is crucial for monitoring specific animals in the wild and alerting people to pests or predators.

https://aimagelab.ing.unimore.it/imagelab/project.asp?idprogetto=49

A computer vision system for the evaluation of the behaviour and the well-being of the dogs housed in the shelter

The project, funded by the Ministry of Health, aims to develop a computer vision system that monitors the well-being of the dogs housed in shelters with the use of 3D images acquisition sensors. The system shall analyze automatically and continuously the behavior of dogs in the short and especially long-term, detecting anomalies that may be induced by a malaise of the animals, reporting alerts to the experts and staff.

changing definitions altogether — Lionino

That doesn't make any sense. No need to take this any further. — T Clark

But I can't help feeling that that your project would be more relevant if the most important requirement was that the definition was correct. — Ludwig V

Lawyers translating international treaties are not going to settle for "right most of the time". — Ludwig V

Tchaikovsky uses cannon-fire in the 1812 overture. Music? Not Music? Depends on the use the sound is put to. — Ludwig V

So a machine trained on philosophy up to 1900 may or may not correctly identify philosophy written a hundred years later. — Ludwig V

I don't understand you responses to my statements. Seems like you're just stretching your definition to fit my examples. — T Clark

Another philosophical statement that doesn't meet the standard:

Philosophy is a mathematical capability of the language at hand. — Lionino

The Tao that can be spoken is not the eternal Tao — T Clark

God will not have his work made manifest by cowards - Emerson — T Clark

All our knowledge begins with the senses, proceeds then to the understanding, and ends with reason. There is nothing higher than reason - Kant — T Clark

Cutting to the chase, I suggest that you need to clarify in your own mind whether you wish to capture the existing use of the term "philosophy" or stipulate a definition to be used in a specific context. — Ludwig V

BTW, is meta-philosophy philosophy or not? - is that a philosophical question? It seems to be an extension of a concept that is used (and therefore defined) within a specific context, which may or may not be considered to be philosophical. — Ludwig V

Dogmatically, I would start by saying that philosophy is a practice (or a family of inter-related practices), the scope of which is effectively defined by what its practitioners do when they are philosophizing. — Ludwig V

One may compare music or the visual or performance arts, or even science itself. — Ludwig V

What is your objective here? — Jaded Scholar

And you proposed

isPhilosophical(#S) IFF S is about another statement.

And I gave examples of statements that were about other statements, but not philosophical, and statements that are philosophical, but not about other statements.

So your definition is void. — Banno

So you agree it is philosophical, but it is not a statement about another statement, and so doesn't meet your definition. — Banno

Your definition of "philosophy" seems to include things unnecessary and insufficient to philosophy. — Banno

Or is it a statement about the meaning of words? Like a definition is about the meaning of words.
Oh dear - it looks like your topic is not philosophical according to your own definition. Does that trouble you at all? — unenlightened

So are you claiming that these sentences, each famously part of important philosophical discussions, are actually not philosophical?

You sure you want to do that? — Banno

Anyway, the definition you offer is trivially too broad. "John said it is raining" is about a statement, but not philosophy. — Banno

I notice since you've joined that you have a strong tendency to devise your own definitions, interpretations and standards for what constitutes philosophy. — Wayfarer

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy

Academic definitions

Attempts to provide more precise definitions of philosophy are controversial[17] and are studied in metaphilosophy.[18]

Precise definitions are often only accepted by theorists belonging to a certain philosophical movement and are revisionistic according to Søren Overgaard et al. in that many presumed parts of philosophy would not deserve the title "philosophy" if they were true.[20]

Some definitions characterize philosophy in relation to its method, like pure reasoning.

Many definitions of philosophy emphasize its intimate relation to science.[24] In this sense, philosophy is sometimes understood as a proper science in its own right.

Other definitions focus on the contrast between science and philosophy.

Another definition characterizes philosophy as thinking about thinking to emphasize its self-critical, reflective nature.[31]

Overgaard, Gilbert & Burwood 2013, pp. 36–37, 43, What Is Philosophy?
Nuttall 2013, p. 12, 1. The Nature of Philosophy

However, that is okay for Singer, because helping the poor (or whether the duty of helping the very poor when we have extra money) can be done without the help of humanitarian organizations. Maybe Singer should have insisted on that more — LFranc

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakat

Zakat (or Zakāh) is one of the five pillars of Islam.[a][3] Zakat is a form of almsgiving, often collected by the Muslim Ummah.[1] It is considered in Islam a religious obligation,[4][5] and by Quranic ranking, is next after prayer (salat) in importance.[6]

As one of the Five Pillars of Islam, zakat is a religious duty for all Muslims who meet the necessary criteria of wealth to help the needy.[7][8] It is a mandatory charitable contribution, often considered to be a tax.[9][10]

Fourth, Wittgenstein did not see any value in intellectual proofs of God's existence or theological formulations in general. — Richard B

So is English. — Lionino

That is not what the word 'philosophical' means, which goes back to my first post. — Lionino

If a statement can talk about other statements, then it can also talk about itself. — Tarskian

That is called metalanguage, not philosophy. — Lionino

your question concerns the obsolescence of books as a medium; and yes, they do seem to be becoming progressively more obsolete. — kudos

https://www.webmd.com/balance/how-spirituality-affects-mental-health

How Spirituality Affects Mental Health

The idea of spirituality means different things for different people. The variety of spiritual beliefs and customs are as varied as the people who practice them. One thing they all have in common is the range of effects they can have on our mental health.

Spirituality can help you deal with stress by giving you a sense of peace, purpose, and forgiveness. It often becomes more important in times of emotional stress or illness.

You may feel a higher sense of purpose, peace, hope, and meaning.

Mental health disorders may be treated with the help of spirituality ...

Mental issues like depression and substance abuse can be a sign of a spiritual void in your life.

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/how-does-mental-health-affect-physical-health

Your mental health plays a huge role in your general well-being. Being in a good mental state can keep you healthy and help prevent serious health conditions. A study found that positive psychological well-being can reduce the risks of heart attacks and strokes.

Mental health conditions can also make dealing with a chronic illness more difficult. The mortality rate from cancer and heart disease is higher among people with depression or other mental health conditions.

Saying nonsense again, aren't we? — Lionino

https://www.psychiatrist.com/pcc/dealing-with-a-patient-who-has-given-up/

Psychotherapy Casebook
Dealing With a Patient Who Has Given Up

He sees no purpose in getting treatment for cancer and has declined chemotherapy. He thinks about the future and sees little that encourages him. When he gets these discouraging thoughts, he often dwells on them and sometimes extends them.

I have told him that this is usually not a winning strategy. We all get thoughts, but some of us are able to divert our thinking in a direction that is more reasonable. I suggested that he try to do this.

We made another appointment to meet and talk in 2 weeks. It is his right to decline treatment for a major medical problem. I have no right to impose a strategy on him. Perhaps the power inherent in establishing a relationship will result in his forming a reason for living.

The main threat to religion is good healthcare. — frank

Sorry, I am not a native English speaker and I don't understand the word "simping". Maybe you wanted to say that the husband and wife become "Sims" with my approach? One more person told me so, but I don't understand this argument. — Linkey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simp

Simp (/sɪmp/ ⓘ) is an internet slang term describing someone who shows excessive sympathy and attention toward another person, typically to someone who does not reciprocate the same feelings, in pursuit of affection or a sexual relationship.[1][2] This behavior, known as simping,[3] is carried out toward a variety of targets, including celebrities,[1] politicians,[4][5] e-girls, and e-boys.[6] The term had sporadic usage until gaining traction on social media in 2019.[7]

My point was simply that I think 'Physics' as a discipline has still a 'raison d'etre' if 'a theory of everything' is impossible to achieve. I myself worked briefly in condensed matter physics, a branch of physics that is quite independent to the search of a 'theory of everything'. To some physicists might be essential, maybe even famous ones, but this does not mean that physics becomes vain if a 'theory of everything' is impossible. There still much to be discovered about physical phenomena that can be 'modeled' with current theories. — boundless

I suppose that the modern sciences as the ethology and the game theory and can reduce the number of divorces in our society. The reason for this is that many divorces are caused by the everyday egoism of spouses, and the modern sciences (their philosophycal aspect) promote a more critical attitude towards egoism. — Linkey

So you shit on both sides of this divide? What intellectually does meet with your full approval? — apokrisis

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant_sarcophagus

The Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant sarcophagus or Shelter Structure (Ukrainian: Об'єкт "Укриття") is a massive steel and concrete structure covering the nuclear reactor number 4 building of the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant. The sarcophagus resides inside the New Safe Confinement structure.

And is maths itself organised in any grand cube of theories? Is everything slotted together under some grand unifying project like category theory or the Langland’s program? — apokrisis