I get what you are saying.
You are saying that the term "truth" and the term "subjective" mean the same thing, but that is not an objective fact

forgot what I said

Yes it does correspond to something that is objective. It corresponds to the fact that truth-value is something that only occurs in minds. — Terrapin Station

What part of truth value or mind is objective?

If your judgements don't correspond to something objective, they are not facts.
None of the statement "All truths (which are subjective) are subjective (which is not objective)" corresponds to anything that is objective by definition.

There are no objective truths, by your definition, so the "truth" part of the statement "All truths are subjective" does not correspond to anything objective.
And by definition the subjective part does not correspond to anything objective.
The statement "All truths are subjective" does not correspond to any objective fact.

Right, so your statements are not objective facts.
And they only correspond to the subjective case.
For example "All truths are subjective" only corresponds to the subjective, by definition.

The statement "All truths are subjective" is not an objective statement if it has a truth value.

I point it out because the truth of this has nothing to do with what is objectively the case.

This is only subjectively true.

I agree.
The facts are the facts, regardless of subjective truths.

No. Not at all. Something being an objective fact has nothing to do with my judgment. — Terrapin Station

Exactly.
Your judgement does not matter.
That was my point.
What is the objective fact is the case regardless of what you believe is true.

Right, the facts don't hinge on your judgement.
And it is only your judgement that it is an objective fact.

You can't move from your judgement that it is true to that therefor it is an objective fact.

The point is that it is only subjectively true that it is an objective fact.
Not objectively true.

Right it is not objectively true that it is an objective fact.
We agree.

It is not an objective fact that is true.

The fact isn't just my opinion. — Terrapin Station

It is not an objective fact, it is just a subjective fact that it is your opinion.

I did not derail the thread, you mentioned something you believed as though it was an objective fact or somehow objectively true.

It is not, it is just your opinion.

nothing is objectively true. — Terrapin Station

You say this as if it could be objectively true.
It is just your opinion, you realize that right?

It can't be objectively true what you say.
So basically your are saying it is your subjective opinion.
Why should any one care about your subjective opinion?

How can you that is true?

Maybe you have a source where Einstein himself said that he meditates, prays, practices celibacy, and tries to live like Jesus did.

I am pretty sure that this was not something he had said himself, even if it is something that was said of him.

That is not what Einstein said.
He even clarified this.

“It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.”

Totally left out eastern traditions?

There is no "valuing something truthfully. — Terrapin Station

How could you know if this were true?

Is tonight star trek meme night at TPF?

Fair enough.
I had not thought about that.

Ayn Rand...though I am not sure she even counts.

What about those that can't afford a therapist?
We should still avoid medication because some people might think we are weak willed?

That's the rub, no amount of evidence is ever enough.

How does coming to terms with medical depression help if you are not going to treat it?

I was skeptical about treatment for a long time myself, until my condition got worse.
I pretty much had to resort to treatment because my mental illness had become unmanageable.

Of course each person has to decide for themselves what is best.
Definitely treatment is not nearly as effective, if at all, if it is involuntary.

I think maybe we are not talking about the same thing.
I was talking about medical depression which can be treated as a chemical imbalance.

Sorry, you seemed to imply that people with depression should not seek treatment.
I know from experience that is not good advice.

Yeah where is that guy?

Hey, I am just pointing out how the term gets used.
Not how it out to be used.

In my opinion the different branches of philosophy covers all of human endeavor
There is no subject which not a subject of philosophy, it is the mother of all sciences and arts.

If a motorcycle runs, then Agustino is an idiot. — mosesquine

Ha!

pretty cool stuff man, thanks for the shares

I think it was a valid point.
Also I pointed out that many people that suffer from depression do embrace it, and that is part of the problem.
It is not necessary to do so and doing so can impair your functionality as well as your quality of life.

lol
thanks

Yes, eventually all the anti-realists will die, and there will still be a reality around.