On Kant, Hegel, and Noumena Thanks for this. I found the following section, from Hegel's
Science of Logic, also helpful:
Things are called “in themselves” in so far as abstraction is made from all being-for-other, which means simply, in so far as they are thought devoid of all determination, as nothings. In this sense, it is of course impossible to know what the thing in itself is. For the question: what? demands that determinations be assigned; but since the things of which they are to be assigned are at the same time supposed to be things in themselves, which means, in effect, to be without any determination, the question is made thoughtlessly impossible to answer, or else only an absurd answer is given. (SL, 121)
From what I understand, Hegel is saying that:
(i) A thing-in-itself would have to lack all determination.
(ii) But if it lacked all determination it would be nothing.
(iii) But if the thing-in-itself is nothing then it is not possible to know anything about it at all.
In other words, in the very act of conceiving of a ''thing-in-itself'' Kant is conceiving of that which cannot be conceived, a contradiction.
This brings to mind the maxim of the early Wittgenstein: ''whereof one cannot speak thereof one must remain silent'' (
Tractatus).