I'll leave you all with one more insight before I go. After all I did come here to spread positive feeling and I do feel I owe it to the philosophical community, which provided me with an intellectually strict basis with which to begin to know God -- thus totally reinforcing my faith once I'd found it. That is, to be constructive here.

I found God (and thus, joy and fulfillment) when, and only when, I opened myself to it. That is, when I really embraced positive behaviour to connect with others. Often at my own discomfort. But I was determined to at least know that I tried my best and couldn't find God. That is, before I discarded the idea that gave many millions such a seemingly profound sense of joy, that deep down I knew I was just envious of. My point is, it takes work. You have to earn enlightenment. Otherwise, it would lack any meaning.

After years of laughing at religious people, and condescending them from way up on my high horse, I came to learn that I was no cleverer than any of them. Much stupider actually! Although I was a much more fluent communicator than most of these people, and my competence in debate was far more advanced... I had obsessively developed these skills to distract from my own insecurity.

These people were bright enough to simply know what is obvious to me now. They're wired correctly. They simply know what feels good and keep at it. They can see it without figuring it out. They know what's right without having to spend much time or effort justifying it. And really, it is so simple.

An example of my past intellectual delusion is that I used to think emotive language was for morons. Now I know better. I don't make the strongest arguments any more. But my viewpoint is far more contagious. And I'm far more loved for it.

So... try to be positive in your thinking and behaviour. Really try. Until you've learned these behaviours. And I'm sure you too will then see enlightenment. The mindstate that knows no definitive description.

Its just, some of us have learned to know better, while others are still searching. And I guess that's all there is to it.

Kind wishes to all.

I'm not here to validate my experiences to you. All I'm trying to share is that religious experiences have rendered any argument you could come up with meaningless to me. Whether that be in favour of God's existence or otherwise. The way I see it I have experience in the matter, while your understanding is purely theoretical.

When you focus on technicalities you lose sight of what's obvious. I used to crave information that I considered factual to develop my understanding of existence. Now I just go with what I know to be true without reasoning it. Does something have to be technically validated when you know it to be obviously true? Or is that just madness?

I was once a master philosopher. Now I've grown up and can move on with my life. It was kinda fun being right about everything. But it was ultimately quite a sad existence.

The opinions of others on this matter are quite irrelevant to me now that I've had these experiences. That's all I wanted to let you all know. So maybe be wishful and hope that you too might find God. Otherwise, let it go.

Goodbye.

I don't really wish to elaborate on the details of my experience. Although I would like to point out that I've had several of these experiences. And I continue to experience them, even this afternoon at church. I was so overwhelmed by what I was experiencing I had to fight back tears throughout. This is a feeling I can't really put into words. I cannot seem to do it much justice by trying to intellecualise it. It's a level of joy and experience that simply cannot be conveyed it would seem.

I think it's quite simply magic. And there will never be a a science for what is magical. There is no way of understanding it well by any means of intellectualism. No matter how hard I try.

I'd say it has to be experienced. But I imagine the default position otherwise would be indifference/ignorance. Seriously some of the replies here give me the impression that a lot of philosophers are emotionally unwell - you're simply missing the point. And somehow getting yourself worked up about it. While under the impression that you can establish yourself as correct, when you simply haven't experienced my experience. It's madness. I did chuckle a bit when someone suggested I was mentally ill in the very same breath as a lot of bitter and resentful shit they'd written.

I think some people might have got the impression I was proposing a position here. The initial post doesn't make good philosophy. But it also doesn't make bad philosophy. It's clearly not a philosophical argument. And while I might have reacted similarly in the past I now find such behaviour baffling. You're simply missing the point. And then getting worked up about it.

Some people are quite intellectually developed. But they seem to lack the emotional maturity to develop a valid viewpoint here.

This doesn't apply to all. A lot of people have had something quite reasonable to say. But I do feel for the others. I've been there. Hopeless and relentless intellecualising in the pursuit of an answer that is really quite simple when you find it. God, that is.

It's important to trust your feelings. They provide much more accurate insight than words ever could. Such is faith.

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You're the one who seems unwell. That's a very cynical outlook. You logic isn't consistent