Or what? You gonna vote on it?

Narrow as a prick it is then.

Good.

If we give up — Xtrix

To 'give up' on Biden and his cronies is not to 'give up', unless your horizon of action is as narrow as a prick.

He's draining the swamp.

Having paid virtually nothing in taxes, Grandpa Trump is clearly a drain on the economy and ought to be left to rot - for the economy.

1. Pence becomes Pres. — magritte

Pence is basically a walking hamburger. The idea that he could in fact be elected is laughable.

The only cogent argument I've seen so far for giving a hoot about Trump's health is the need to see him roundly thumped at the polls, which is a really cute thought, but the thought of him drowning in his own lungs is better.

:blush: I did like how it was "you're not a liberal... but you're ALSO not a fascist (!!!!)"

Oh I absolutely believe in democracy. Specifically as one of those ideas which would be nice if it were ever to be implemented.

*shrug* Biden's corporate trash and the idea he and his party might stand as any kind of bulwark against climate change is wishful thinking in the extreme.

The only thing worse than not instituting the GND is using its name ("GND legislation") to institute some milquetoast 'reforms' and coopting progressive sane energy to pretend like it's making a difference.

That all said it would still be good if Trump choked to death on his own spittle.

But even passing Green New Deal legislation is something — Xtrix

The same GND of which Biden explicitly said "is not his plan" and which he "does not support" just 3 days ago?

but once they're in office they'd better very quickly start passing New Deal-level reforms, or we're essentially doomed. — Xtrix

Doomed it is, then.

Wishing Trump well or denouncing those hoping he dies/suffers implies that he exists in some sort of moral vacuum; that he has had no actual impact on people's lives in the last 4 years, not to mention his entire lifetime. — Maw

You can always spot a liberal from how as soon as things stray from any sense of what is 'normal' and polite, all they care about is that things go back to 'normality'. Hundreds and thousands dead and countless lives ruined is just a statistic in a game to be played within well defined boundaries. Anything anomolous, and it's mask-off solidarity with whatever fascist-wannabe. Had Hitler got sick in the middle of a fucking putsch they would wish him well.

:lol:

You think Trump is lying about having tested positive? — Michael

Insofar as covid itself is a democrat hoax, there is nothing he could have been tested positive for, see.

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Also maybe this is why he was such a grumpy bit of flab at the debate the other day. Under the weather and all.

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Mohammad Bin Salman Al Saud — 180 Proof

There's a new book out on this particular clown - Bradley Hope and Justin Scheck's Blood and Oil, which you might be interested in.

As has been said elsewhere, I don't know why he got tested in the first place. Everyone knows that if you don't get tested, you don't get corona.

Wonder if he'll drink bleach.

Wonder if the other debates will be cancelled.

I hope the fucker drops dead.

Got my hopes dashed by Bolsonaro tho, so no expectations.

If the next debates are gonna be the incoherent mess that it was two days ago, then people are just gonna tune out — Mr Bee

Every time Trump has to speak in long-form (as with the Axios interview a few months back), he shows up for what he really is: a complete moron. What usually allows him to get away with it are the short, soundbite formats where he can quip then change the conversation. He's a meme president. He speaks in memes.

These 'debates', for all their general worthlessness, demand ever so slightly more than that. Which is why he's trying so damned hard to turn into a wild compilation of soundbites. The man literally cannot speak for more than 15 seconds before his brain juice short-circuits. 90 minutes? You get the shitfuckery of debate, and everyone knows who is responsible for it.

Tbh I don't think they should change the formats of the debates at all. Trump is showing who he is. Let him.

Santorum saying the quiet part loud.

He's good for something other than being a breathing joke.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-panic-as-dems-take-astronomical-lead-in-early-mailed-ballots-says-report

"Top GOP officials have reportedly been sent into a blind panic after seeing numbers showing that Democratic voters in key states are returning mail-in ballots at much, much higher rates than Republican voters. According to The Washington Post, the Democratic lead in mail voting is so extreme that it’s led to urgent discussions among senior GOP officials. “It’s astronomical,” said one unnamed Republican strategist, who added that he was left “horrified” by the numbers. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has reportedly twice met with Trump to urge him to stop bashing mail balloting, and is said to have told others he’s worried that the president’s rhetoric could stop Republican voters—especially elderly ones—from sending in their ballots. Republican National Committee spokesman Mike Reed insisted there was no panic, saying Republicans “will come out in droves to vote in person” on Election Day."

:rofl:

I hope Trump and his little sycophants keep pushing this line of mail-in ballot fraud - the only people stupid enough to believe it are the people who would otherwise vote for him. And it seems to be having the lovely effect of energising everyone else.

Also, to be fair, Trump played his only card. He can't actually debate, and Biden has no hair for him to stand behind and sniff, so snivelling angry little shit is about as high strategy as he could have gone.

Ah, desperation from our resident propagandist. How sweet.

One other interesting thing to me was that Trump was clearly not enjoying himself. He was pinprick sensitive, touchy, and ill-humoured. Even the way he waddled on stage like a unwilling duck was quite distinct. A very different Trump from four years ago, where he basically held court.

Biden on the other hand, totally missed the opportunity to have fun with Trump's dourness. A sharper, more instinctual leader would would used Trump's boorishness against him. Biden just tried to play indignant exasperated uncle instead.

The discussion in this thread seems to be confused, oscillating between two pretty much entirely different questions: first, about the reality of reference in general, and second, about the possibility of self-reference.

As for the person who refers to themself as a sentence, one would advise him or her to go back to English class to learn what "I", "am", and "sentence" mean.

Probably the only thing Trump is honest about is his support for white supremacists and neo Nazis. — Baden

You could see it in real time, the cogs turning - "how do I not do this?"

Before, of course, eventually settling on telling said white supremacists to stand by. Brave little contrarian, he is.

Trump says white supremacists and neo-Nazis should 'stand by'. — Baden

This was probably the wildest bit about the whole thing. And message received, it seems:



*Joe Biggs: Proud Boy leader and supporter of date rape and violence against sexual minorities.

@Benkei, @Pfhorrest, @creativesoul

Guys and girls please keep this thread on topic, thanks.

MTV needs to do a celebrity death match episode with these two. Trump can be portrayed as an infant, and Biden as an undead corpse. — Pinprick

I thought this just happened on CSPAN tho.

Banned @Jerseyflight. Multiple PMs from the community; evangelizing; drama llama.

I cannot understand why Biden is debating. — tim wood

Biden is debating because the American masses need their fill of circus performance. Two clowns on stage, can you not be entertained?

No irony, darling.