It is not about knowing better than God. It is about if the biblical instruction to be as perfect as God should be followed or not. Those biblical words, to Christians, are God's own Words and must also be followed.

They contradict each other.

Hence my "Is it moral for any law maker to say do as I say and not as I do, when he also says be exactly like me?

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DL

It does get a bit confusing.

Scriptures say we are to emulate God in all of his ways. Be ye as perfect as God are the words used.

God says, do not kill. We cannot emulate God as he is a killer. We terefore have the option to either follow the laws of God or the example of God.

Which are you doing? Following God's nature and seeking that perfection, or just seeking to be a follower of someone else's law?

God does not follows his own laws.

Is it moral for any law maker to say do as I say and not as I do, when he also says be exactly like me?

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DL

Jesus simply his laws for us. — hachit

If that is the case, you miss his message. You are naming another as your law while ignoring that you are to be God.

Modern Gnostic Christians name our god "I am", and yes, we do mean ourselves.

You are your controller. I am mine. You represent and present whatever mind picture you have of your God or ideal human, and so do I.

The name "I Am" you might see as meaning something like, --- I think I have grown up thanks to having forced my apotheosis through Gnosis and meditation.

In Gnostic Christianity, we follow the Christian tradition that Christians have forgotten that they are to do. That is, become brethren to Jesus.

That is why some say that the only good Christian is a Gnostic Christian.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

Joseph Campbell shows the same esoteric ecumenist idea in this link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU

The bible just plainly says to put away the things of children. The supernatural and literal reading of myths.

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DL

love God then love others. — hachit

Love must have works and deeds and reciprocity between lovers to be true love.

God is not around to love is and thus cannot be said to love us just as we cannot be said to love God in the real sense of the word.

If you think God loves you, then you must also think he is quite rude as he does not return anyone's love.

This song expresses that thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YB4J-keW3A

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DL

↪Gnostic Christian Bishop I mean only that there can be no single idea of this God; therefore, of those ideas I file under God, if I choose to adopt them as imperatives, then I can own them — tim wood

Indeed. That is why there are as many Gods as their are people to think of them.

We will all have our own notions of what God is.

https://imgur.com/9eoBEyo

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DL

And what God, exactly, would this be? — tim wood

I know of no exceptions. Do you?

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DL

Anyone claiming to know what is happening over our heads is arguing with the evidence provided by every other species ever to walk the face of the Earth — Jake

This is interesting to a naturalist like me.

Nature leads us to a truth about who we think out God should be.

The ideal example or God for an ant, is an ant.
The ideal example or God for a lion, is a lion.
The ideal example or God for a human, is a human.

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DL

wild speculation — Jake

Not wild at all when you know where to look.

Have a look at the Vatican's creation painting and see what background God id sitting in. A replica of our right hemisphere of our brains. The same applied to the Egyptian eye.

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DL

I can see how you can take ownership of a law or incorporate it into your ideology.

How do you do that with some invisible absentee God?

If it is Yahweh under discussion, why would you want the laws or that God when he is depicted asw such a vile and satanic genocidal son murderer?

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DL

Not so much over our heads as in our heads.

Look up Freud and Jung's Father Complex and you will see that they have found where we keep our instincts and moral outline as a part of our selfish gene.

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DL

Jesus said to render twice what was asked in his walk two miles instead of one remark.

Easy for him to say as he was not the one doing the lifting and toting.

Paul also taught just how a slave was to be beaten. Do you also follow that reasoning?

So tell me. What is more important to you God or his laws?

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DL

To our instincts, there is indeed a higher power. In survival terms, we default to cooperation and to our genes, that means making friends and recognizing the greater power of the tribe.

That itch or penchant in us has been used against us by the religious fraudsters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqYHiejTVM

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DL

I like the way Gnostic Christianity looks at heaven and reality as science seems to prove their concept.

I wrote this to refute the false notion that Gnostic Christians do not like matter and reality that the inquisitors propagated to justify their many murders of my religions originators. It shows that Christians should actually hate matter and not Gnostic Christians.

The Christian reality.
1 John 2:15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Gen 3; 17 Thou shalt not eat of it; cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.
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The Gnostic Christian reality.

Gnostic Christian Jesus said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and will reign over all. [And after they have reigned they will rest.]"
"If those who attract you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you.
If they say to you, 'It is under the earth,' then the fish of the sea will precede you.
Rather, the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you.
[Those who] become acquainted with [themselves] will find it; [and when you] become acquainted with yourselves, [you will understand that] it is you who are the sons of the living Father.
But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty."

As you can see from that quote, if we see God's kingdom all around us and inside of us, we cannot think that the world is anything but evolving perfection. Most just don't see it and live in poverty. Let me try to make you see the world the way I do.

Here is a mind exercise. Tell me what you see when you look around. The best that can possibly be, given our past history, or an ugly and imperfect world?

Candide.
"It is demonstrable that things cannot be otherwise than as they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end.”

That means that we live in the best of all possible worlds, because it is the only possible world, given all the conditions at hand and the history that got us here. That is an irrefutable statement given entropy and the anthropic principle.

You will never die may refer to your mental condition on earth and means that your ideas will never be bested and what you think is true reality. True reality never dies.

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DL