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  • Ukraine Crisis
    The conflict seems fairly far removed from us here in the US. — BitconnectCarlos

    According to google, the distance between ...
    Washington DC and Moscow    = 7817 km (4857 mi)
    Washington DC and Kyiv      = 7828 km (4864 mi)
    Washington DC and Jerusalem = 9490 km (5897 mi)
    
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Hm. Weird. Canada and Greenland need protection by P01135809 from P01135809's friend.

    Something did look familiar...

    Trump’s Schedule F plan, explained
    — Alex Tausanovitch, Michael Angeloni, Erica Newland, William Ford · Protect Democracy · Jun 11, 2024

    RFK Jr in, Presidential Executive Order signed:

    (a) study the scope of the childhood chronic disease crisis and any potential contributing causes, including the American diet, absorption of toxic material, medical treatments, lifestyle, environmental factors, Government policies, food production techniques, electromagnetic radiation, and corporate influence or cronyism; — ESTABLISHING THE PRESIDENT’S MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY AGAIN COMMISSION · The White House · Feb 13, 2025

    There are already all kinds of studies (+ ongoing). Some of these areas are heavily studied. Are they fishing for different results in medical treatments (vaccines), food production techniques (GMO), electromagnetic radiation (5G), ...?

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  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    In diplomacy you engage the sides, not leave them out and decide on yourself. And the attempts on war-profiteering are made by Trump. — ssu
    Sides have been engaged, which is a far cry from what Europe and NATO has done. — NOS4A2

    Trump starts Ukraine peace talks as he and Putin plan Saudi meet
    — Francesca Chambers · USA TODAY · Feb 12, 2025
    Ukraine wasn't invited.

    Ukraine balks at signing Trump deal to hand over its mineral wealth
    — Veronika Melkozerova, Joe Gould, Jamie Dettmer · POLITICO · Feb 15, 2025

    Should we expect the Putin excuse-makers and apologists soon?

    Hmm... Arrest Putin while he's in the Middle East, get him on a Tulip fertilizer transport to The Hague, trial. No big deal; he'll get a slap on the wrist. I don't think there's anything out on P01135809 at this time (except at home).
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪ssu
    ,
    ↪Relativist
    , maybe it's about power, like you snap your finger and something happens?
    In days gone by, he didn't have the power to summon Putin-the-powerful.
    Now he does, both, and revels in it?
    (Just conjecture on my part, I'm no telepath.)

    Trump Names El Chapo Ambassador to Mexico :D
    — The Borowitz Report · Dec 1, 2024
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    :D

    Nearly 10,000 fired as Trump and Musk step up government purge
    — Timothy Gardner, Leah Douglas, Nathan Layne et al · Reuters · Feb 14, 2025
    Trump Admin fires nuclear staff—Oops, they were in charge of US weapons stockpile
    — ET Online · Feb 15, 2025

    No way. Trump and Musk tried to fire 300 nuclear officials—then realized they were the ones overseeing the U.S. nuclear arsenal and scrambled to rehire them?

    You can’t make this level of incompetence up. These are the people who claim they’ll “restore order.”
    — Brian Allen · Feb 14, 2025


    EDIT: Wait a second, did I miss an opportunity to steal some nuclear stuff...? Dang.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    So far, P01135809 has followed Putin in some respects:

    • (pre-emptive) strong appeal to nationalism
    • gathered/appeased/rallied religious conservatives (+ extremists + disillusioned)
    • threatened other countries
    • efforts to sideline (or remove most) non-loyalists, merits less relevant
    • moves to ditch some protection of minorities (or vulnerable)
    • lied
    • parroted Putin regarding Zelenskyy
    • some initial steps to suppress free media (Putin is ahead)
    • "our country has a sickness and I'm the cure", or whatever (campaign trails)

    (Did I miss any?)

    For some reason, I can picture him going "If Putin can, watch me".

    EDITED links
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    There’s a Term for What Trump and Musk Are Doing (archive, archive)
    — Anne Applebaum · The Atlantic · Feb 13, 2025
    Already, the Post reports, candidates for national-security posts in the new administration are being asked whether they accept Trump’s false claim to have won the 2020 election. At least two candidates for higher positions at the FBI were also asked to state who the “real patriots” were on January 6, 2021.
    In some government departments, minority employees have set up affinity groups, purely voluntary forums for conversation or social events. A number of government agencies are shutting these down; others are being disbanded by organizers who fear that membership lists will be used to target people.

    Ouch. Is that confirmed? The article paints a glooming picture.

    Trump’s assault on USAID leaves China soft power opening in Southeast Asia (— Erin Hale · Al Jazeera · Feb 13, 2025)
    China rights monitors suspend work, lay off staff after U.S. aid freeze (— Laurie Chen, Antoni Slodkowski, Clarence Fernandez · Reuters · Feb 14, 2025)
    Lawmakers worry China could take over after Trump pauses foreign aid (— Chris Boccia · ABC · Feb 14, 2025)

    US out, China in.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    RFK Jr in
    Health workers out
    Regress

    Who's this good for anyway?
    Sue Republican?
  • The Musk Plutocracy
    ↪Hanover
    , yep, and furthermore

    Democracy has always contained the possibility of its own undoing, it just takes a majority vote of someone non- or anti-democratic. — Dec 27, 2023
  • The Musk Plutocracy
    ↪NOS4A2
    , check the likes of the Unabomber, Torquemada, Capone, Escobar, Mogilevich, the Pagans, neo-Nazis, jihadists, ...
  • The Musk Plutocracy
    You don’t think people wanted DOGE? — NOS4A2

    Sure they did, or at least they wanted...something. :) (bulldozing education, research, information sources, are among the things they seem to be getting)

    So it doesn't make any difference to you if you live in a democracy or a dictatorship. It's the same thing either way. — frank

    I'm guessing @NOS4A2 doesn't want either, wants there to be nothing, just people doing...their thing.
  • Ukraine Crisis
    ↪ssu
    :D

    Canada, Japan, South Korea, Ukraine, to join extended EU, and form defense alliance which includes Greenland (and California) — now the largest democratic cooperative around — hypothetical news headline
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Every illegal alien has committed a crime. That’s a 100% crime rate. — NOS4A2

    Sure, though the accusations have been drugs murder rape ... that's a few dealers murderers rapists (according to P01135809) ... (and cat eaters or something :grin:) ... Some of this stuff brings up memories, ah never mind, you wouldn't understand anyway.
  • The Musk Plutocracy
    the president of the United States

    Are we talking plain dictatorship now?
  • Climate change denial
    ↪Agree-to-Disagree
    , why don't you just answer fοo?

    Anyway, I took their references and their concluding summary seriously enough to think that we better prepare. Unless otherwise meeting an early end, that applies to everyone.
    Limiting anthropogenic warming remains the most sound strategy for avoiding the most severe heat events
    Haven't sifted through the references and examples in detail though, maybe if time permits. Some mentioned samples are down to Karachi, Paris, Vancouver, Mecca, Lagos, Chicago, Andhra Pradesh, Telangana, Al Hudaydah, New York, Ahmedabad, other perspectives are broader. Preparing for wider temperature swings is justified.
    South Asia and West Africa seem at most risk at the moment

    On another note, plastic bags (old style) have been out for a while around here. In stores, you bring your own reusable bags or buy them there. Plastic straws have been out for a while as well. Anthropogenic pollution at large has become ridiculous.
  • The Musk Plutocracy
    Do peruse that article linked in the OP. — Wayfarer

    Mr. Musk, who leads a cost-cutting initiative the administration calls the Department of Government Efficiency, boasted on Saturday that his willingness to work weekends was a “superpower” that gave him an advantage over his adversary. The adversary he was referring to was the federal work force.

    :D Propaganda has worked.

    If a bunch of tools barge into an office, would the office not require a warrant?
    (Presumably, these are government offices, I have no idea about the legal details.)
  • Climate change denial
    ↪Agree-to-Disagree
    , that was your takeaway from the paper? (telling)
  • Ukraine Crisis
    Democracy in Eastern Europe Faces Another Crisis (archived)
    — Anthony Borden · The Atlantic · Feb 4, 2025

    Not really all the surprising, is it?

    Looks like P01135809 won't stand up to Putin after all, I guess we'll see.

    The new Trump administration could herald a remaking of the international order. How should the world respond?
    — Leslie Vinjamuri · Chatham House · Feb 5, 2025
    US defence chief signals major shift in Ukraine support in first NATO meet
    — Al Jazeera · Feb 12, 2025

    On another note... When someone pushes for peace, not by stopping the attacker, but by stopping the defender, then something's amiss.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Tzeentch
    , you seem to have extensive information on the topic + keep bringing it up in other threads ... isn't whipping up a thread the next natural move?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Since this (counter-propaganda) is making the rounds again ... :D

    A day in the Life of Sue Republican (— Sonny Vermont · Jul 5, 2022)

  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    J D Vance goes for monarchy-oligarchy?

    You Cant Do That Bro (— Politics Girl · Feb 11, 2025 · 2m:57s)

    (I don't know the legal details.)
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Of all the fucked up things the US government [...] — Tzeentch

    Already suggested you put together a thread on these things. Hit it.
    (Don't you already have a mile-long list + who where when + means motive opportunity etc?)
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Is all the yelling here due to thinking that DEI efforts are against choosing on merit?
    That wasn't my impression, rather the opposite, it's intended to apply when choices aren't based on merit (which isn't hypothetical), hence diversity equity inclusion.
    Either way, RFK Jr sure wasn't appointed head of Health on merit. :D



    Someone somewhere else was trying to come up with historical analogies to ...

    HIV, transgender care, climate change and other federal websites go dark
    — April Rubin · Axios · Jan 31, 2025

    Our Service Academies have been infiltrated by Woke Leftist Ideologues over the last four years. I have ordered the immediate dismissal of the Board of Visitors for the Army, Air Force, Navy, and Coast Guard. We will have the strongest Military in History, and that begins by appointing new individuals to these Boards. We must make the Military Academies GREAT AGAIN! — Donald J. Trump · Feb 10, 2025

    As USAID retreats, China pounces
    — Robbie Gramer, Eric Bazail-Eimil, Phelim Kine · POLITICO · Feb 10, 2025
  • Climate change denial
    South Asia and West Africa seem at most risk at the moment

    Mortality impacts of the most extreme heat events
    — Tom Matthews, Colin Raymond, Josh Foster, et al · Nature · Feb 4, 2025
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Came across this (4 pages), some of which ring true today:

    “The Danger of American Fascism,” Henry Wallace (1944)

    Your mileage may vary.

    Some other snippets/sources:
    • America, Fascism, and God: Sermons from a Heretical Preacher (2005) by Davidson Loehr
    • American fascists: the Christian Right and the war on America (2006/7) by Chris Hedges (pdf)
    • Christianity - Christianity and Fascism (2007) by M D Magee
    • Did FDR's Vice-President Write an Op-Ed About 'American Fascism'? (2018) by Arturo Garcia
    • Am I My Brother’s Keeper? : Local and Global Responsibility in the Digital Age (2020) by David Gethings
  • Climate change denial
    In 2004, it took the world a year to add a gigawatt of solar power — now it takes a day
    — Charlie Giattino · Our World in Data · Feb 7, 2025

    640px-20201019_Levelized_Cost_of_Energy_%28LCOE%2C_Lazard%29_-_renewable_energy.svg.png
    — Levelized cost of energy (LCOE) · Wikipedia
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    :D

    How Bill Cassidy, a lifelong vaccination advocate, wound up voting for RFK Jr. as health secretary
    — Anne Flaherty, Will McDuffie, Cheyenne Haslett, Allison Pecorin · ABC News · Feb 4, 2025

    Sellout. Circus.
  • Climate change denial
    Rapid tech progress have allowed newer EVs to achieve comparable lifespans with other vehicles in the UK, even under more intensive use:

    The closing longevity gap between battery electric vehicles and internal combustion vehicles in Great Britain
    — Viet Nguyen-Tien, Chengyu Zhang, Eric Strobl, Robert J R Elliott · Nature · Jan 24, 2025

    Dude should go back to SpaceX and all that. :D

    Tesla Sales in Europe Plummet Amidst Elon’s Stupid Meddling
    — Lucas Ropek · GIZMODO · Feb 3, 2025
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    P01135809 has managed (further) alienate a number of Americans, Canada, Greenland, Panama, Mexico, ... Way to go. I guess we'll see what comes of it.
  • Climate change denial
    Using AI for weather projection seems like an obvious exercise; that's what these folks are researching:

    On the Extrapolation of Generative Adversarial Networks for Downscaling Precipitation Extremes in Warmer Climates
    — Neelesh Rampal, Peter B Gibson, Steven Sherwood, Gab Abramowitz · NIWA + UNSW · Dec 5, 2024
    A Reliable Generative Adversarial Network Approach for Climate Downscaling and Weather Generation
    — Neelesh Rampal, Peter B Gibson, Steven Sherwood, Gab Abramowitz, Sanaa Hobeichi · NIWA + UNSW · Jan 2, 2025

    The projections (for New Zealand) can be generated a lot faster than with traditional models.
  • Climate change denial
    Swifter hydroclimate changes anticipated:

    Hydroclimate volatility on a warming Earth
    — Daniel L Swain, Andreas F Prein, John T Abatzoglou, et al · Nature Reviews Earth and Environment · Jan 9, 2025

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  • Climate change denial
    @Agree-to-Disagree, would you like renewable/sustainable/green energy efforts to succeed?
  • Climate change denial
    (Big Climate Change, like there is Big [...] — Agree-to-Disagree

    Is that the powerful windmill-industrial complex?

    Do you believe that all climate scientists are "knights in shining armour"? — Agree-to-Disagree

    No. Neither are all astronauts, yet the Earth still ain't flat.
  • Climate change denial
    Hmm
    ↪Agree-to-Disagree
    , answering the question with a question instead? If you weren't called denier, what you call them?

    In absence of anything better, I'll go by the (large) consensus among subject matter experts.

    Scientific consensus on climate change | Wikipedia | science index
    Evidence | NASA | science
    Nature Climate Change | Springer Nature | science and discussion index
    10 myths about climate change | WWF | errors
    Consequences of climate change | European Commission | effects
    Climate change | OECD | policy
    + a simple rational analysis → Aug 1, 2024.

    Doesn't seem plausible that they're all in on some conspiracy or whatever, but people have ridiculously believed worse. Any ulterior motives would largely be financial in fossil fuel sectors. (Or just contrarians/conservatives/economists perhaps?) :shrug:
  • Climate change denial
    ↪Agree-to-Disagree
    , why do you consistently call others alarmists and scaremongers? Did "concerned" (heck, or "caring") go out of fashion? And unenlightened...? → Aug 1, 2024

    Anyone who believes in indefinite growth on a finite planet is either mad or an economist :D — whoever
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪NOS4A2
    , you know there's such a thing as redheads, yes?
    They have reddish hair.
    I don't know of any particular discrimination against them on that account, and neither should there be.
    If there were, then DEI could apply to discriminators.
    Something similar goes for people that require very large shoes, and whatever.
    Yet there is discrimination that ought not be, to which these efforts are a reaction.
    You may complain about whatever implementation details of course.

    It's hardly new...

    The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. — paraphrasing Plato
    And you can also commit injustice by doing nothing. — Aurelius
    Often injustice lies in what you aren't doing, not only in what you are doing. — Aurelius
    All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. — paraphrasing Burke
    Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. — Mill
    Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. — Wiesel
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪javi2541997
    :D "You know what I'm saying, right? You know what I'm saying." Don't know who the interviewer is, but they probably actually know. And Spain isn't "low" (let alone "very low"), it's a reasonably civilized democracy, "higher" than a lot of countries.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Relativist
    , that's too bad. :/

    By the way, we don't see this happening in otherwise comparable countries:

    Did Alex Smith Die at Age 26 Because He Couldn't Afford Insulin? (— David Emery · Snopes · Sep 24, 2018)

    Apropos the recent murder.

    Someone elsewhere claimed that the recent pardons of insurrectionists are a way of building loyalty from militias and such. They might carry out unofficial acts. Not exactly a charitable comment, still consistent though.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪Tzeentch
    , the US having turned into pre-industrial anarchy would be "objectively an unmitigated trainwreck" (yours is tweet-style exaggeration). But, sure, things aren't exactly optimal. (By the way, the Ukraine situation isn't just the US, as have been argued again and again, though they should have handled it my way.) ;) Threatening Canada Greenland Panama Mexico is estranging.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪AmadeusD
    :up:

    objectively an unmitigated trainwreck — Tzeentch

    ↑ tweet; such magnificent exaggeration that "objectively" seems like a joke :)

    Good riddance! — NOS4A2

    ... because screw the environment!
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