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  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    I agree, but in the long run such people are not good for the forum. He was banned for evangelism. As it says in the guidelines: — jamalrob

    I think, in general, how the thread ran it's course was fair; the ideas were fairly debated (by the community anyway), and he was clearly an evangelist. Rather than ban him at post #1, the ideas were allowed to flesh out, which I think is right. Then, once it was obvious that he was contributing nothing and simply evangelizing, he was banned.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪SonJnana


    We all had fun, and we all experienced pain. I don't think he was properly trolling; see @exit above. He went through the trouble to make a second account (for what reason?) in order to sign off...? I don't know. Hopefully this is the end of it.

    I will say to the moderators, even though the thread was far too popular for you to delete or close, I appreciate that nonsense like this was able to be addressed. Free speech means that all ideas, no matter how close-minded, need to be brought to the table, if only to be shot down. Edit: indeed, if close-minded ideas aren't even given the chance to be shot down, how can ideas be debated in the first place?
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪SonJnana


    Noooo, he won't even see the irony tho
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪SonJnana


    Well SonJnana, apparently PJ awaits your response. What fucking response are we even awaiting?
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    Tru
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    Answer the question.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    Answer the question.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    Answer the question.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    Answer the question.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    No it doesn't. Answer the question.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    No you don't; I and everyone else await your response to the question that was asked fucking pages and pages ago.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    So answer the question.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    What question is that an answer to? No one's.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    I'll make a drugstore run (we call it a bodega run around these parts); I can't keep watching the entertainment otherwise.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    *burp* what?
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    I don't detect any novel information in your response.
  • What do you live for everyday?
    ↪Agustino


    See above, sucka!
  • What do you live for everyday?
    ↪Agustino
    ↪Posty McPostface


    Derp, nvm, the name appears on the tab, but nowhere else; Shestov. Been meaning to read him.
  • What do you live for everyday?
    ↪Agustino
    ↪Posty McPostface


    Interesting first paragraph. Who's the author?
  • What do you live for everyday?
    ↪Agustino


    Oooo oooo yay
  • What do you live for everyday?
    ↪Agustino


    I don't have time to read the article, but I'll look at it later (which means I probably wont; I'm too lazy :P care to summarize?)
  • What do you live for everyday?
    ↪Agustino


    Yup. Everyone is fake. Except me. I'm always one tick away from nihilism, which seems to be the place to be. It positions you one tick away from God as well. :P
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪SonJnana


    I'm a non-beliefist, but only in regards to non-beliefism.
  • What do you live for everyday?
    Sculpture mainly. — charleton

    The first time I've almost agreed with you! Would love to see your work. Assuming you really mean that sculpting is your main motivation for life (even if I disagree with that motivation itself).
  • What do you live for everyday?
    ↪schopenhauer1


    I doubt the average person, even the average TPF member, is conscious of what they "live for everyday", since the daily ritual of life doesn't allow for that much reflection. On top of that, when we do reflect on why we live life each day, we tend to come up with a nice ideal: "I live life for the betterment of others", "I live life for the beauty of things", "I live life because it's my imperative to do so", etc., ad naseum. But these aren't real reasons for "living life"; they're justifications for one's existence, and generally not quite truthful. In reality, we generally don't know exactly why we're living life.

    Which has nothing to say about why life should be lived, which is the implied question within your question. The recognition of the uncertainty and the insincerity are good starting points, however.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    *holds beer*
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    Woah buddy!
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    Do you detect that you shall demonstrate your point to be valid, regardless of whatever answer ANYONE returns?
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    This is not a response to what you quoted. As has been long mentioned.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    Things don't require belief, to be valid. (as long mentioned). — ProgrammingGodJordan

    This is not a response to what you quoted. As has been long mentioned.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    1.Right. I detect no contact between you and this reality.
    1a) i.e. you are unaware of your scientistic beliefs.

    2. This had long been pointed out to you in this thread.
    2a) your continued refusal to acknowledge this contacts a garnering of knowledge suggesting that you are in denial.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪SonJnana


    Everyone has, which is why it's time to put it to rest.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪ProgrammingGodJordan


    Edit that sentence with proper grammar and I'll respond. And it's "scientism", not "scientistism".
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    Also, isn't scientism a special brand of pseudo-science? Where's our recently christened pseudo-science expert @TimeLine on this topic?
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪SonJnana


    You're doing just grand, but I remain pessimistic.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    It's beyond black now.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪SonJnana


    I've been watching, bub...
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    I was the first responder (lol) to this thread, so the entertainment value has long since vanished for me. Around page 8 or so.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    I think I would cry a little. But then feel ok.
  • Belief (not just religious belief) ought to be abolished!
    ↪Banno


    Yes to 2 and 3.
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