• Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    I gave you my opinion, but since you cannot find what’s wrong in it, you fall back on what you know best.

    If you fear the facts and resort to imagination, and seek only comments that validate what amounts to propaganda-driven gossip, you’re not fit for discussing anything. None of that is going to stop me from pointing out your failures.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    But then the question is, if they didn't understand how he's unfit for presidency before, would any of the current problems matter to them? Being ruled guilty in a trial should have been enough for them to sway away from voting him into office, so what's the parameters that actually matter to these people who aren't directly in the cult?

    As a cult member myself, being ruled guilty by a corrupt, anti-Trump, Democrat Judge, whose daughter raked in millions from the Biden and Harris campaign, is a badge of honor. Non-cult members are seeing that too and they’re joining in droves.
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    It was awesome. The rude journo, recycling DNC talking points, was roundly handled and came off looking like a sour apparatchik. The other two were at least professional. But the whole thing was sabotage from the get-go, and it made them and their organization look like a shit-show. Kamala avoided it like the plague.

    At any rate, nativists and racists would be unhappy about Trump’s statements.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    You don’t mention that the Mueller probe took over from crossfire hurricane, for some reason, acting as if they were somehow separate. The only reason we got a special counsel was because the conspiracy theorists among Congress demanded one after Comey’s firing.

    So independent was it that the incompetent and biased investigators on the failed Crossfire Hurricane investigation were simply moved to the office of the Special Counsel. You won’t mention that these investigators were fired for anti-Trump texts.

    The whole charade was the fruit of a poisoned tree, none of which should have went past a preliminary investigation, but all of which had been used against just one political campaign.

    Knowing all you know about counter-intelligence investigations, would you apply your discernment towards the other campaign? because according to DNI Radcliffe: “U.S. intelligence agencies obtained insight into Russian intelligence analysis alleging that U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had approved a campaign plan to stir up a scandal against U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump by tying him to Putin and the Russians' hacking of the Democratic National Committee.”

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/09-29-20_Letter%20to%20Sen.%20Graham_Declassification%20of%20FBI%27s%20Crossfire%20Hurricane%20Investigations_20-00912_U_SIGNED-FINAL.pdf

    Perhaps you don’t know, or at least won’t mention, that “On 07 September 2016, U.S. intelligence officials forwarded an investigative referral to FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok regarding ‘U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's approval of a plan concerning U.S. Presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering U.S. elections as a means of distracting the public from her use of a private mail server.” Again this was released by DNI Radcliffe, and this info was briefed to Obama himself by CIA director John Brennon. Despite the knowledge, referral, and briefing to the president, no investigation had started as far as we know or.

    That sounds suspiciously like the hoax proffered by the press and the anti-Trump brigade, exactly what the FBI fell for, and subsequently tried to cover up—a Clinton campaign ploy to use Russian active measures to injure her political opponent. Yet it went on. It appears to have worked because even now you’re defending it.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    So...it seems that your judgement of the DOJ is based on Trumpian falsehoods.

    It’s based on special counsel findings. They should never have launched a full investigation. They used raw, unanalyzed, and uncorroborated intelligence. Investigators concluded “the (Justice) Department and FBI failed to uphold their important mission of strict fidelity to the law in connection with certain events and activities described in this report”.

    You’re just repeating media falsehoods.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    So it's just paranoia toward the FBI (hmm. I wonder where that came from ;-)) that induces you to assume the worst about them....

    It comes from a mix of principle and evidence. I don't trust authority in principle. As for evidence, most of those convicted in the Mueller investigation, for example, were for process crimes. Now that we know that there was no underlying crime to begin with, that the entire investigation was a failure and had no reason to start in the first place, it makes their indictments all the more unjust.

    ...but the paranoia of people who've worked for Trump and fear for what he might do (based on what they've heard him say and things he tried to do) is the only thing that's unreasonable.

    It is unreasonable because it isn't grounded in any reality and completely unfounded.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Trump just had a glorious interview in hostile territory with the NABJ (The National Association of Black Journalists). Gold mine.

  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    When has the DOJ ever gone after Trump for a "process crime"?

    Never. But my point was that they are going to, not that they have.

    Applying the law equitably entails "moral panic"?!

    No, believing Trump is an existential threat entails a moral panic, and many of his disgruntled former employees have stated as much.
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    I don’t think it sticks because it implies those who say it are in some way normal. For instance they just had a whites-only Harris rally. The years of child-sniffing and gender ideology and hoaxes kind of renders it hilarious.

    But the speed with which the phrase was downloaded and installed in pliant brains was quite extraordinary. It’s like Skynet.
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    The worst is they lied and covered for Biden’s condition for years. So not only did they nullify the primaries and deny the votes of tens of millions of people with their palace coup, they did so only because they couldn’t keep up the charade any longer.

    Votes and elections and so-called democratic institutions mean very little to them in principle. It’s probably why they dropped the “threat to democracy” schtick and went with calling their opponents “weird”. But remember all this when they avail you of the sanctity of elections.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Project 25 didn’t release its mandate until April 2023. Trump started Agenda 47 in January 2023, and remains his only official agenda. Trump also endorsed the RNC platform, which is softer on many issues than Project 25. He never once endorsed Project 25’s mandate.

    Some will skirt around these facts and never even mention them because it contradicts their imagination.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Another conspiracy theory down the drain with Project 25. What’s odd is that they won’t focus on Trump’s actual agenda, which he’s had for over a year now. There is much red meat there that any Kamala fan can use to fill that Trump-sized hole in his soul.

    But the brief event, and the subsequent attempt to pick up the pieces, shows how easily viral nonsense can be effectively downloaded and installed as knowledge without much effort, much like Russiagate. All that’s left is motivated reasoning bias to keep it in the mind’s eye.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Many of Trump's employees descend into the moral panic, as do many seemingly qualified and rational people. Add on top of that the historical failures of that agency, their likelihood to use methods like entrapment and deception, the situation is ripe with danger.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Trump agrees to be interviewed by the one agency that will use it to indict him with some sort of specious process crime.

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-assassination-attempt-fbi-9c3838fcf9753b3e61caf97804112fca
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)


    Spread the propaganda as far and wide as you can, friend. But one day you’ll get tired of being lied to. Count on it.
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    survivor of an operationalized Trumper/MAGA-affiliated kidnapping & execution conspiracy in 2020

    Survivor of an FBI entrapment case, more like it. It was planned by paid FBI informants. More deep state crooks elevated by deep state dupes.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2022/4/13/23023950/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-kidnapping-plot-acquittal-fbi-entrapment-jacob-sullum-column

    https://theintercept.com/2024/03/06/gretchen-whitmer-kidnapping-informant/
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    Could you explain how misinformation works? Is it supposed to be picked up by bots? Is it supposed to become part of a cloud of misinformation so that people don't trust anything anymore?

    It doesn’t work. Those with some modicum of governing power use the phrase as an excuse to censor information, which does work. But it does have some technical use insofar as it distinguishes between various types of information, for instance false info, knowingly false info with intent to mislead, and so on.
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    That’s a good take, thanks.
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    I’m just kidding, frank. What do you think about Biden’s proposal?
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    It means you’re approaching stalker territory.
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    Hopefully it’s not a fatal attraction.
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    You can’t keep me out of your head, can’t you?
  • Perception


    The reason a quality like “color” doesn't extend beyond the object is because it is a quality of the object, not the mind. The changes in color within objects and the differences between them are due to changes in the objects themselves, like when a banana turns green to yellow as the chlorophyll breaks down.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    President Harris and her puppet Biden calls for anti-constitutional reforms to the Supreme Court, which appears to be the last line of defense against their authoritarian rule.

  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Everyone already forgets the historic month of July: the unprecedented palace coup by Obama Inc. and the attempted assassination of their folk devil, president Trump. It’s already back to “Trump said…” before the month is even out.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Still can’t tell me what he did wrong?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    You’re the second post.

    So do you think Trump’s comments signal that he will end elections?
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    But refuting plain nonsense does equate to correcting the record. One thing you cannot do is defend the nonsense with lies any longer. This whole thread is a compendium of your work, your disinterestedness. So it might be best to avoid bringing up disinfo.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Disinterested? You get miffed and insulting when anyone corrects the record, but when they lie and spread disinfo it’s dead silence. Just weird priorities, that’s all.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)


    Get angry when I do it, dead silence when others do. You’re in good company.
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    Here's the new hoax, right on time.

    Trump faces backlash for ‘in four years, you don’t have to vote again’ remark

    Some Democrats say his comments, directed at a Christian audience, signaled his plans to be a dictator. His campaign says he was talking about ‘uniting’ the country, and experts point to his ‘deliberately ambiguous’ speaking style.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/27/trump-faces-backlash-four-years-you-dont-have-vote-again-remark/

    What's missing is some context, namely, the speech itself. His scolding of Christians for their low voter turnout makes his later comment make sense, and his enemies imaginations looks stupid.

    And by the way, Christians have to vote. You know, I don't want to scold you. But do you know that Christians do not vote proportionately? They don't vote like they should. They're not big voters. You know, who else aren't voters? The NRA endorsed me very powerfully strongest endorsement. They can give National Rifle Association people that own guns and rifles are not big voters. They have to vote if you don't vote, we're not going to win the election. If you do vote, we're going to win in a landslide. Too big to rig, we're going to win in a landslide. But Christians, you know, you'll go to church every Sunday and pastor Paula White and all of the people I understand they're doing lock boxes in churches where people don't even have to go to vote. They can now vote in church. And if you do that, we're going to win by numbers that nobody's ever seen before. You know, you have tremendous power but you just don't know that, but you have to use that power. Christians are a group that's known not to vote very much. You have to go out at least this election. Just give us and get us into that beautiful white house vote for your congressmen and women vote for your senators. We will change this country for the better this country will be great again, like never before you've got to vote and I've said it before and I'll say it again.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?537386-1/president-trump-speaks-turning-point-believers-summit

    But the anti-Trump movement is going back to the tried and true Live Action Role-play tactics, so with their activism they can pretend they are saving democracy, looking for that straight up dopamine hit. And this after their party removed the primary winner and installed their own candidate, so it's a double deceit.
  • Devil Species Rejoinder to Aristotelian Ethics


    “the object for which a thing exists, its end, is its chief good”

    Aristot. Pol. 1.1252b

    He applies this to horses, a household, the state, as much as human beings.

    If the object for which a thing exists, its end, is its chief good, it follows that if its end is evil, that is its chief good.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)


    I wonder if Vance, at the behest of the donor class and GOP apparatchiks, will pull a coup on him and take over his campaign.
  • Politics, economics and arbitrary transfers.


    I’m not sure any transfer could be called arbitrary save for throwing a bunch of money in the air and letting anyone pick it up.
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    No, whatever you say—weird speculation derived from…Anthony Scarammuci?
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    So no one has actually talked about replacing him.
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    Trump is a tribe. You heard it here first.
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    If you need someone to talk to, let me know. You’re not alone.
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    I’ve been doing the same thing for years, but now it’s entertaining. Now you feel the need to fake laugh about it for some reason. Is something wrong, Benkei?

    The cracks are emerging. That feeling in your brain is the cognitive dissonance. It’s when two contradictory values collide. You know what’s going on is wrong but you don’t want to admit it because it makes your tribe look bad, so naturally, you try to deflect it on someone else. But that’s your body telling you to quit lying. The stress of it all is too much. It isn’t healthy. It’s ok to let it go.