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    You are an other person, and you are completely incredible.

    I guess it’s a good thing I don’t value your opinion.
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    It is funny, in a way, because Anti-immigrant Trump supporters fell for the lie that Trump was anti-immigrant just as anti-Trumpers did. Someone like Ann Coulter comes to mind. It’s the same with the racist Trump supporters. They believed the lie just as anti-Trumpers did, then they get disappointed when they find out it isn’t true; or, in the case of anti-Trumpers, they just keep on believing it.
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    Source: other people. Believe everything they say.
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    It’s January 6th, today. As a final kick to the pants, Kamala has to attend her ceremonial duties today and do the Electoral count. There could be some fireworks.
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    My source? You’re talking to him. I prefer my own conclusions to the conclusions of others, especially authorities. If I’m wrong I’m wrong, but if you’re wrong it’s because you’re credulous.
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    It’s an interesting point, but a thing and its behaviors are one and the same. It’s impossible to take your eye off one in order to observe the other. There does appear to be a sort of being/behavior dualism, perhaps the result of splitting the two into subject/predicate for the purpose of language.
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    Oh yeah the Trump guy tries to blow up Trump tower with a cybertruck. The FBI told us so.
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    Another broken anti-Trumper self-immolating upon his beliefs in an act of terrorism.

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    Like Sweden?

    “Existing official statistics at both the European and global levels regarding total COVID-19-associated and excess overall mortality rates suggest that Sweden was less affected than most comparable countries that implemented stricter lockdown measures (11–13).”

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10399217/

    Then it appears that you are not only for the violation of human rights, but more death as well.
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    Do you truly believe I was onboard with much more death?
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    It’s true, I am against the violation of basic human rights. Were you for the violation of basic human rights?
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    Sounds like something Mao would say. But I never mentioned communism or communists. “Collectivism” doesn’t mean communism in any world I’ve lived in.

    Nor did I say that “hyper-individualism” is collectivism. My claim is that there is no “hyper-individualism”. There is no such doctrine or belief convincing people to act this way or that. And until someone demonstrates that there is, such notions can be readily dismissed.

    On the other hand, the vast majority of institutions, modes of production, methods of education, and the general culture is collectivist in both structure, practice, and thought. In recent memory we watched as most of the species locked each other in their houses, excluded from daily life those who would not take an unproven medical procedure, closed businesses, denied education, funerals, weddings, and all basic natural rights in favor of the strict regimentation of entire societies. And most allowed it to happen. There we had a clear choice between the two, and the world openly and proudly chose collectivism.
  • Identity


    My given name.
  • Identity


    You call yourself NOS4A2 for example.

    I do not call myself that. You call me that.
  • Identity


    How does one hide a real identity?
  • Identity fragmentation in an insecure world
    The fragmentation of groups into other groups and the rise of identity politics is the business of collectivism. Replacing one group identity with another is a collectivist act. And none of the categories listed are in any sense individualistic in practice or in principle.

    And this is a common theme among illiberal thinkers. Individualism is the scapegoat, and we see critiques of it often, except we’d be hard-pressed to find anywhere it has been implemented or widely-held in any manner as a philosophy, doctrine, or code of conduct.
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    Thanks for the refresher. Though I would add that Zelensky himself was “promoting the Putin's lie that Russia wasn't going to attack”.

    No, I generally read you with great interest, and you stated you have the first event of how the Trump administration will work. That’s not a fact. That’s a prediction of a future Trump administration. We can include in that your predictions of a failing FBI and a Brxit-like economy. Should you be right I’ll be sure to praise your foresight. But it’s interesting to me because predictions of future threats and disasters is one of the processes of moral panic theory. And regarding Trump you make quite a lot of predictions.

    We’re all clueless in regards to the future, and anyone who pretends to know it is ridiculous. I don’t find you ridiculous, unlike others, so it is especially jarring when I read it from you.

    Enjoy your holidays, ssu; stay free.
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    Just lovely.

    Joe Biden commutes sentences of 37 out of 40 federal death row inmates

    Joe Biden has commuted the sentences of 37 out of 40 federal death row inmates, changing their punishment to life imprisonment without parole.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/23/joe-biden-death-row-inmate-sentences-commuted-clemency
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    We got now the first event of how the Trump administration will work as Musk showed his power in the incoming Trumpster-fire administration.

    These predictions are fun. Great fodder. I’m just curious.. have you ever been right?
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    In a civil case involving a claim for relief based on a party’s alleged sexual assault or child molestation, the court may admit evidence that the party committed any other sexual assault or child molestation.

    The access Hollywood tape is not evidence he committed sexual assault.

    In the recording, Trump states that he ‘moved on’ a woman named Nancy ‘like a bitch,’ that he ‘tried to fuck her.’” As summarized by the district court, Trump also says “that he just starts kissing beautiful women, he does not first obtain consent, that the women just let one do it when one is a ‘star,’ and that a ‘star’ can ‘grab’ beautiful women by their genitals or do anything the ‘star’ wants.”

    Classic contextomy. You quote that he moved on Nancy O’Dell “like a bitch” but leave out the clause immediately after “but I couldn’t get there.” Of course, Nancy O’Dell didn’t describe any assault during the encounter. This is because taking someone furniture shopping is not sexual assault in the real world.

    You quote “grab” and “star”, and fill in the blanks in-between, but leave out “they let you do it”. There is no evidence of assault in the tape at all. The summary from the court is stupid.

    You make no attempts at objectivity, just fallacy, propaganda, and projection.

    It's bizarre that you ignore the fact that Trump sexually abused Carol and defamed her, and deflect by obsessing on a crime that Trump was not found liable for. Unable to face the facts about your idol?

    What evidence do you have that Trump assaulted Carroll? DNA? Video? Admission of guilt? It’s bizarre that you can believe someone committed a crime without evidence. Unable to ignore the facts about your folk devil?
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    You're quick to judgement on the judge, who did nothing wrong and displayed no blatant bias even in the context of daily attacks by Trump during the trial. Do you just accept everything Trump says?

    It matters because it's relevant to what Stephanopolous said. ABC would probably have won the case, although it would have raised Trump's ire and led to his retaliation.

    That’s false, he allowed the access Hollywood tape into evidence. He coached the witness. He scolded the defense. He tried to say her claim was “substantively true” when it was not. Did the jury believe the plaintiffs claims of rape or no? The answer is no, and no amount of gymnastics is going to change that.

    You're ignoring reality. She proved Trump sexually abused her and defamed her on multiple occasions. The jury felt that rape (as defined in NY criminal code) was not proven, but neither did they judge that it was DISproven.

    How did she prove it? You tell me and we’ll see who is ignoring reality.
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    A special prosecutor can be appointed to take over the case.

    What special prosecutor will take up a case brought by a corrupt political prosecutor? An idiot would, no doubt.

    You Trumpists are the ones splitting hairs. Here's what Judge Kaplan said:

    I don’t care what the anti-Trump judge said. It’s right there in the verdict form.

    “Did Ms.Carroll prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that:

    Mr. Trump raped Ms Carroll?

    No”

    Carrol couldn’t prove her one accusation. This is a corrupt case from top to bottom.
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    Another technicality that has zero bearing on Trump's guilt in the crimes for which he was indicted.

    Jack Smith will be out of a job soon. I wonder if Georgia will make him an offer.

    Sure it does. She was the one prosecuting him. The appearance of impropriety clouds her prosecutorial decisions, leaving the prosecution itself in doubt.
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    It’s “sexual abuse”. You just can’t help yourself.
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    Yikes. It looks like anti-Trumpism can’t help itself. The question is: do they believe their own lies, or is lying a principle of their ideology? In any case, a very expensive choice of words.

    ABC’s George Stephanopoulos was repeatedly warned not to use word ‘rape’ by producer — but said it anyway: sources

    https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/media/abc-parent-disney-didnt-think-it-would-beat-trump-in-court-report/
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    Looks like Fani Willis was disqualified from prosecuting the president. She wanted to make a name for herself but ended up dragging her legacy through the proverbial mud.

    https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/19/politics/fani-willis-donald-trump-georgia/index.html
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    The problems you mention doesn’t entail a flight to the Americas and being trafficked through the Darién Gap to the United States and Canada.
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    Migration has many causes, overpopulation, war, even bad weather. As climate change ramps up, so does the surge of migrants. The US will need to accept even more. Canada has so much wide open space, it can take even more than the

    The government of Canada recently decided to freeze its disastrous immigration policies because it can’t keep up with the effects. The cost of living is unsustainable. Getting healthcare means an 8-hour wait in ER. Senior tax-payers are barely scraping by on their meagre state pensions amid rising costs. Everything is taxed to shit. Migrants might fare better fixing their own countries.
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    Kamala surrogates: “There is no crisis at the border”.

    Analysis: Recent Immigration Surge Has Been Largest in U.S. History

    The immigration surge of the past few years has been the largest in U.S. history, surpassing the great immigration boom of the late 1800s and early 1900s, according to a New York Times analysis of government data.

    Annual net migration — the number of people coming to the country minus the number leaving — averaged 2.4 million people from 2021 to 2023, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Total net migration during the Biden administration is likely to exceed eight million people.

    That’s a faster pace of arrivals than during any other period on record, including the peak years of Ellis Island traffic, when millions of Europeans came to the United States. Even after taking into account today’s larger U.S. population, the recent surge is the most rapid since at least 1850.

    The numbers in the Times analysis include both legal and illegal immigration. About 60 percent of immigrants who have entered the country since 2021 have done so without legal authorization, according to a Goldman Sachs report based on government data.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/11/briefing/us-immigration-surge.html
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    Watch the rats cut and run. It’s glorious.

    Biden White House Is Discussing Preemptive Pardons for Those in Trump’s Crosshairs

    The deliberations touch on pardoning those currently in office, elected and appointed, as well as former officials who’ve angered Trump and his loyalists.

    Those who could face exposure include such members of Congress’ Jan. 6 Committee as Sen.-elect Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and former GOP Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming. Trump has previously said Cheney “should go to Jail along with the rest of the Unselect Committee!” Also mentioned by Biden’s aides for a pardon is Anthony Fauci, the former head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who became a lightning rod for criticism from the right during the Covid-19 pandemic.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/12/04/biden-white-house-pardons-00192610
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    That’s your problem: you imagine. You read a story like this then immediately predict the future with some degree of anti-Trump confidence. But the one-sided story they served you leads you to believe this is the only option they’re considering. You did not give a link to the article, so I am unable to read further, but the administration is clearly looking to tackle a problem that until now seemed insoluble. Instead of predicting some dire future, maybe use your imagination to help them out, come up with different ideas that aren’t as weak and ineffectual as every other administration that hasn’t been able to do squat.

    I’ve only ever accused people of being trapped in something like a moral panic. I do not believe they’re deranged, even if their behaviors may exhibit otherwise. They are responding to an exaggeration or distortion of a threat via mass media. Your story about the meeting, for example, quotes maybe two sentences, and from this small inkling of information you go on to imagine innocents being droned in their houses. That’s all it takes.
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    No @NOS4A2, just stop and think about this one for a while: It's impossible for ANY President to perform at the same time of 1) tackling all the crises that land on the desk of the POTUS daily, 2) of doing the obligatory functions of the executive, 3) leading foreign policy, 4) leading trade and economic policy (and the trade wars), 5) leading all other policies and 6) implement radical reforms. And then is the work of getting all the contributions to the next elections.

    If anyone can be close to doing all that it is a workaholic like Trump. His deluded haters just won’t give him a chance. I mean, this is a great opportunity for them: if he does horribly it will tarnish and discredit MAGA into the future.

    Yes, and that's the kind of lawyer Kash Patel is and that's why he is Trump's pick. Doing lawyer stuff as an aide for Nunez etc. Yet Kash hasn't lead anything larger than a small team of lawyers and tried to find the "mole" inside the White House. Oh but you think Kash Patel will do fine by leading an organization of 37 000 policemen? Oh, any lawyer can do that, right? After all that rhetoric of going against the real gangsters inside the FBI.

    I do indeed think he’ll do fine. There is no indication he’ll do otherwise except with the weird fortune-telling that goes on with appointments like these. He’s uniquely qualified. Many directors are lawyers. Hell, Rod Rosenstein, Gina Haspel, and Christopher Wray all work for the same incestuous lawfirm. Few of them were prosecutors, defenders, and intelligence officials.

    No, Comey's stupidity comes from not understanding what kind of person Trump is. When Trump asked him for loyalty, he would simply have said to be loyal to the President of the US and then veer the discussion to something like Trump likes, like how kick-ass FBI agents the bureau has and Trump should come to see them, it would be a perfect photo op for the Prez.

    His stupidity was Trump’s fault!!! Of course it was. Everything is Trump’s fault in anti-Trumpism. Just yesterday some press were saying Biden flip-flopped on Hunter’s pardon because of Trump. My guess is we’ll be studying this phenomenon well into the future.

    Look, the administration could do horribly, and if that happens it will be obvious, but I’m not going to listen to the most deluded predictions from the press or otherwise.
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    No wonder he couldn’t get everything done that he wanted to. It’s difficult to run a country with the ceaseless disruptions from all branches of government and the fourth estate. His own DOJ believed in a conspiracy theory that embroiled the government in insubordination, from top to bottom, for years. The impeachments, the insubordination, the riots, a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic, hindered and stifled the efforts of the executive branch throughout his entire administration. So I forgive any and all failures.

    It was Patel’s work on the so-called Nunes memo that broke the scandal wide open, and was later confirmed by the Inspector General’s report and the Durham investigation. The DOJ, along with Ray, claimed the release of the memo to be “reckless”. It turns out it was right all along; the FBI was reckless, incompetent, grossly negligent. They failed to uphold their one mission, to maintain a strict fidelity of the law, and it’s clear they just didn’t want anyone to find out the truth.
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    Yes, at least Fox News makes him to be well suited for the job. He also sells Trump shirts, btw.
    So he was a NSC staffer there, but I think his breakthrough, if I remember correctly, was writing or assisting on writing the Nunes memo. Interestingly it was Carter Page that made me first surprised, because Page was the first American ever to say that Ukraine was an artificial state (and hence talked the Kremlin line). Then Patel was active in Ukraine when Trump was looking ways to get Biden. So basically he's a minion that Trump wants to have around.

    The stupidest argument is that he is a “loyalist”, which implies an executive branch employee should be an insubordinate to his boss like Alexander Vindman and James Comey and Mark Milley. That’s not how a chain of command works in any functioning democracy, I’m afraid. The president is supposed to be the highest representative of the people, and if his staff are disloyal to him they are disloyal to the people.

    So what failure did Trump do with the current FBI director, that he himself appointed? Comey or McCabe aren't replaced here, but Christopher Wray, a Trump appointee.

    What is his wild incompetency? That he didn't deliver an "October Surprise" like Comey did with reopening the Hillary Clinton investigation and didn't go after Biden, his boss, with similar investigations? Not MAGA enough for you?

    This is just bullshit. You really think you are rooting for someone like Patel to "drain the swamp", go against the Deep State? Nothing like that is happening here. Everything is just partisan politics and a power grab disguised in "fighting the Deep State". But people fall for it, just like they have fallen over every time to think that Republicans will make the Government smaller. Trump made it very clear what kind of a FBI director he really wants: a loyal Herbert Hoover that will go after Trump's own enemies.

    It’s an absurd assessment. “Nothing like that is happening here”? Of course not, they’re not even in power yet.

    Your unmitigated fears are not based on much, ssu. Again, your experienced directors have been proven incompetent, and numerous investigations and whistleblowers has proven the FBI in need of serious reform. What defenders of these institutions keep falling for is that these agencies are above reform, above the law, in no need of systemic change. That has proven to be false.
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    Joe Biden pardons his son, despite claiming many times he never would. Every time he uttered “no one is above the law” was a lie. What a legacy.

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    Dismissing Patel because of his lack of experience is silly because his experience includes serving as a U.S. National Security Council official, senior advisor to the acting Director of National Intelligence, and chief of staff to the acting United States secretary of defense.

    Besides, all of your experienced directors like McCabe and Comey have been proven by investigations to be wildly incompetent, biased, and unable to abide by a strict fidelity to the law. The organizations and investigations they ran displayed “gross incompetence and negligence”.

    The author of the Atlantic article, too, tried to make fun of him for writing a children’s book, implying he ought to have used government as a springboard to jobs at Raytheon and Boeing. I’d rather a man who wrote a children’s book to have control of these decrepit agencies than any number of the career, unelected bureaucrats using their office to further their own financial future.

    At any rate, I’ll do as I always do and save your predictions for when they undoubtedly miss the mark.
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    “If I am to be denied any rights in the next four (or more) years, I will not give them up without a fight,” said Lydia Echols, 28, a Texas woman making plans for a bilateral salpingectomy — a procedure in which her fallopian tubes will be removed.

    An unidentified 39-year-old who had just gotten the procedure told the outlet that she felt she had no choice after the election results.

    “I am not happy that I felt forced into a surgery I did not want to alter my body, I feel like the election tied my hands and forced me to be sterilized — that is horrible.”
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    You can tell people are scared of getting exposed by Patel. The best part is the writer for that rag cannot even name something Kash has done wrong, just that deep-state stoolies like Barr and Haspel were scared of him. Good.

    It’s just not true that Patel has no plan, because he wrote a whole book describing it. I can list for you some of his ideas for reform if you like, at least so you don’t continue through life spreading deep-state misinformation.

    For the FBI in particular, his plans consist of the following.

    • move the FBI office out of Washington.
    • Cut the general counsel office

    For all such agencies:

    • Aggressive congressional oversight.
    • prosecute leakers
    • Civil service reform.
    • seek trials outside of DC
    • Reform the FISA court.
    • Create a permanent declassification office

    There’s much more, and I can expound on them if you like. Then we can discuss the merits and demerits of these ideas should you be interested.

    But keeping you ignorant, blind and loyal is how these people control you, ssu. Venture outside the bubble now and again.