:up: :up:Yes... but I guess it still leaves us with open questions about which metaphysical models we may be willing to engage with, or accept as worth our time. — Tom Storm
*Boom!* :smirk:
Oh, that. I don't expect "financial elites" will "allow" it any more than junkies & drunks "allow" themselves to become addicts or chimps & tigers "allow" themselves to become well-fed captives in municipal zoos. We – cradle-to-grave dependents on 24/7 goods, services & infrastructures – already live inside the internet and there's always a mad-scramble race on to monetize 'ANI' (i.e. deep learning/neural-net systems and agents e.g. ChatGPT, OpenAI, face-recognition surveillance CCTV, Siri, etc) in any and every c/overt way possible. Mass culture has been 'amusing us to brain death' (i.e. cognitive obsolescence) for a century, which ubiquitious – no "off-switch!" – computerization has accelerated the last few decades ... and maybe the computational curve is going vertical – 'strong AGI' running the asylum – just in time to prevent us from bringing down global civilization on our own heads. Will such caretakers (zookeepers) be "benign"? I expect AGI to be no worse to us than our Haves have been to we Have-nots (or nature) for the last half-millennium.What I meant was whether the financial elites would allow control to be handed over to benign "strong AGI". — Janus
Given (3) accelerating global climate change, (2) persistent proliferation of WMDs and (1) the ascendancy of anti-democratic, reactionary populisms in high-income nations, the near-imminent prospect of 'strong AGI' (capable of automating the strategic infrastructures of global civilization in order to transform the current, unsustainable scarcity economy into a sustainable, post-scarcity circular economy) cannot be realized soon enough.Any more positive views of the world's future? — Tim3003
If that were so, then you would have given "detailed answers" instead of just more of your usual run-on gibberish. The fact is, Gnomon, you're intellectually allergic to direct questions put to your idiosyncratic confusions and never give "detailed answers" to them, such asI take your questions seriously, and provide long detailed answers. — Gnomon
C'mon, Gnomon, rectify this failing on your part by giving succinct, direct answers to my questions either in my previous post and/or in these old posts linked above (or show that the questions are invalid in someway/s).
Is that it? I thought we "hate" them for their nativist hatred of those "damn dirty darkies" (i.e. howling about "Eurarabia", etc).... they also hate white Europeans for wanting a more balanced approach to immigration ... — flannel jesus
:smirk:I won't ask a Kantian to get a cup out for tea. Heaven knows what might happen. — Banno
:up:I would have thought that, where a metaphysics leads you to count two cups where there is otherwise but one, that alone would be grounds for doubt. — Banno
Is it "metaphysics" or just the lazy habit of reifying abstractions?See how metaphysics leads one astray? — Banno
:100:I think it clear we do not know what happens when we die. All the rest is story telling. — Fooloso4
:100:A congenital problem with idealism is that, in denying that things exits outside the mind, it throws out the existence of other minds. Of course over the last few hundred years various arguments and excuses have accreted around Kant's thinking, but it seems difficult to see how we cannot be sure of the chair on which we sit, and yet we can be sure of the folk to whom we talk. — Banno
:roll:... solipsism. Perhaps epistemic ...
Okay, again I askI'm a Substance Monist. — Gnomon
So you are a (non-Cartesian :roll:) substance dualist after all, Gnomon, as you distinguish between "act of creation" and "creation" (or "design" and "designed" ... "immaterial" and "material")... what non-trivially distinguishes "physical events" from "metaphysical interactions"? — 180 Proof
... in effect, invoking Aristotle's (down-to-earth version of Platonic duality) 'teleological hylomorphism'. How latter-day Scholastic (i.e. :sparkle:-of-the-gaps) of you ...Meta-physics is the design (form, purpose); physics is the product (shape, action). The act of creation brings an ideal design into actual existence. The design concept is the “formal” cause of the thing designed. — Gnomon
Of course. Why wouldn't it?Does Immanentism allow for an eternal "Multiverse", or "Big Bounce" scenarios, [ ... ]?
It's the culmination of tautologous premises #1-5.Solipsism.
— 180 Proof
Why? — Bob Ross
"The political object is the goal, war is the means of reaching it, and means can never be considered in isolation from their purpose. War is merely the continuation of politics by other means."Not to have to focus on politics but on an ethical intuition re methods of warfare... — Baden
:100:... you are already making us of language, along with all that entails; so your very line of thinking presupposes far more than it pretends. — Banno
Tautology.1. There is experience, therefore something exists. — Bob Ross
(See my reply to #1.)2. That something, or a part of it, must be producing experience.
How do you/we know this is the case?3. The unified parts of that something which are producing it is the ‘I’.
(See my reply to #3.)4. The ‘I’ can only produce experience through (data) input (i.e., sensibility).
Solipsism.5. The production of experience via sensibility (and whatever may afterwards interpret such sensibility) entails that one’s experience is a representation.
Clarification: so you are a substance dualist?Consciousness is partly shaped by physical events, but partly determined by metaphysical (mental) interactions. — Gnomon
Yep, that's his usually m.o.You [@Wayfarer] are simply reading your preconceptions into the quotes you posted. — wonderer1
:up:I also find myself wondering, if accurate. so what? Does it make any difference to how one lives? How is this way of thinking of use? — Tom Storm
Again: philosophical statements.What do you mean by a conceptual supposition or interpretation? — Bob Ross
There's indeed no moral equivalency. Hamas' violence is a drop in the ocean of Israeli aggression. — Benkei
Of course not. The oppressor (group B) is more morally reprehensible than the oppressed (group A).Is the pilot and the group of armed men morally equivalent? — BitconnectCarlos
:up: :up:My reason for not believing in any form of personal rebirth or afterlife is not that there is any definitive evidence against it, but simply that I cannot make rational sense of the idea, and I cannot believe something I am incapable of even making coherent to myself. So, I can honestly say that my thoughts on this are not at all driven by wishful thinking. — Janus
Our descendants' lab-grown steaks sausages & chicken tenders will be too convenient and taste too good to fret about obsolete barbaric practices.Why will no one care or remember? — Judaka
