Instrumentalist? Neo-pragmatist? ...Is it reductionist metaphysics? — T Clark
Interesting (I guess 'analytical') approach. :chin:For me, metaphysics should be applied piecemeal. It's a tool to help with thinking and understanding - a tool box. When you're doing reductionist science, maybe pull out the materialism and realism. When it's math, pull out the idealism. When you're trying to see how it all fits together, you might need holism or even mysticism. — T Clark
No doubt true of cataphatic "anti-metaphysics".The desire to reject metaphysics is itself what must manifest metaphysics as the “other” which has been placed at the greatest possible distance. — apokrisis
In Existential Physics, Sabine Hossenfelder was asked : "are you just a bag of atoms?". She replied : "The relevant property of humans is not our constituents. It's the way the constituents are arranged ; it's the information you need to build a human, the information that tells you what it can do." — Gnomon
:100: :up:Life and mind are dissipative structures organised by semiosis. We are structures of meaning or negentropy. — apokrisis
... but more like (the study of) constants and functions, respectively.Ontology and epistemology are not like ought and is... — Banno
For sociopaths, no doubt.Our task could be understanding but not empathy. — javi2541997
:fire:I do have a pet, and I would eat it to survive. I also have kids so they would get the dog burgers first, followed by dad burgers if it meant them surviving. Survival trumps morality for most people, for most things. — DingoJones
:up:I objected to the industrial slaughterhouses and the brutal system that eating meat en masse has generated. Not as concerned about a small community that raises animals and kills them as they need them — Tom Storm
:clap: :smirk:... naive realism that dissolves into naive idealism without even being aware of it is not a sorted-out epistemology. It is 1950s plain speaking bullshit. — apokrisis
What? :chin:Better, the mooted distinction between epistemology and ontology is here misplaced. Always, already interpreted. — Banno
No, because we cannot "know anything absolutely". What does "know ... absolutely" even mean? We're not absolute beings with the absolute perspective so it makes no sense to say "how well we can know anything absolutely". Unless, I suppose, by "know" you mean something other than cognition. :chin:Isn't the difference between objective and subjective just how well we can know anything absolutely? — TiredThinker
Berkeley says "to be is to be perceived" and this seems to presuppose "self-perceived being" that cannot perceive other selves only ("ideas of") bodies, etc (i.e. as @Banno has said, IIRC, 'idealism implies that only what can be known (directly) is real and therefore solipsism – only oneself is real – because one only knows oneself as / to be a self'). Of course, subjective idealism is only one flavor ...Can you describe how idealism leads to solipsism? — Tom Storm
I haven't a clue but I've recently speculated about that on a thread discussing 2001: A Spece Odyssey.I've not immersed myself in this world but would you know off hand just who are the candidates supposedly behind these notions of simulation? Is it generally some kind of organic programmer, or are we part of an endless recursion of IT simulations? — Tom Storm
:fire:I've said it before. I'll say it again. Questions about our reality are not science. — T Clark
Brains-in-vat / simulation hypothesis.the notion of universal mind — Tom Storm
:up:It's not technology which sustains life in the biological sense but air, food and water. Technology may sustain our lifestyles, but that is something else. — Janus
Suffering.Are there any absolute, indisputable standards of morality, or is morality relative to the place and time? — alan1000
Yes. One can be mistaken.Is it possible to be morally wrong even if one is convinced to do the right thing? — Matias
Yes. There's no such thing as moral statute of limitation.Another related question could be: is it possible to be morally wrong retroactively?
I think it only means that we are morally fallible.... we are doing something that we think is normal and morally acceptable, but without knowing or suspecting that it is (objectively!) morally wrong and we are in fact morally depraved beings?
:up: Thus, the incoherent triviality of the OP.However, although the misuse of technology may be one contributor to alienation within society, it is not the only cause, as alienation existed in societies pre-modern technology. — RussellA
Freedom is beyond good and evil.The cost of freedom is evil. — Agent Smith
:100: :fire:And science clearly is not unified. We have broken it down into a hierarchical list of different sciences depending on scale and principle of organization. There have been long discussions of that hierarchy here on the forum. I think the important message is that reductionism works - each higher level behaves consistently with the level below - but constructivism doesn't - you can't generally predict behavior at a higher level from principles of the lower level. Example - you can't predict the behavior of biology from chemistry. — T Clark
Now look who's talking down ... Projection is a hell of a drug. :roll:Here, look at me being helpful to you: — frank
:up:There are 613 commandments in the Hebrew Bible. — Tom Storm
There are no whinging "pessimists" in foxholes.With despair, true optimism begins: the optimism of the man who expects nothing, who knows he has no rights and nothing coming to him, who rejoices in counting on himself alone and in acting alone for the good of all. — Jean-Paul Sartre
:100: :up:The failure to recognize the difference between everyday or scientific reality and metaphysics is the biggest failure of most posters on the forum. — T Clark
↪schopenhauer1 :roll: We do not even "understand" how we move our fingers and toes let alone what our brains are doing moment to moment or even why pessimists bother whinging on and on about "pessimism" ... Big whup. — 180 Proof
And when you lack a non-trivial counterargument, more useless whinging. :yawn:Asshole and dickish comments are the norm if you disagree. Can't just argue the arguments here. Nope. — schopenhauer1
No.Does quantum physics say nothing is real?
:clap: :party:Drastically different physical principles apply to sandwiches and surfboards than apply to subatomic particles. The world works differently at different scales. Why would we think that wouldn't be true. Different metaphysical regimes apply at different scales. That's the thing about metaphysics - there's not just one appropriate view of reality. The philosophical lesson of QM is that what works at human scale doesn't work at all at nano-scale. — T Clark
