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  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    23October24

    re: Diaper Don The Fascist Clown (a convicted felon as well as an adjudicated rapist & fraudster, who 'self-described racists' believe is also a racist, and who everyday wears more make-up than a drag queen) – another character reference from a former senior Republican:
    Well, looking at the definition of fascism: It’s a far-right authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy. So certainly, in my experience, those are the kinds of things that he thinks would work better in terms of running America.

    Certainly the former president is in the far-right area, he’s certainly an authoritarian, admires people who are dictators — he has said that. So he certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure.
    — John Kelly, retired 4-Star General USMC and former Trump WH Chief of Staff

    >>> Roevember 13
  • Where is AI heading?
    ↪Carlo Roosen
    Consider this link to a discussion on AI (if you haven't already):

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/941212

    Thoughts?
  • The (possible) Dangers of of AI Technology
    What do you (anyone) make of this talk?



    @Benkei @noAxioms @wonderer1 @Vera Mont @jorndoe et al
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    "47" is thirteen months younger than me (which is a(nother) first). Happy 60th today! :party:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Mikie
    :up: Here in Washington State we got our early ballots yesterday. I dropped mine off today.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    19October24

    I voted today against fascism! :victory: :mask:

    >>> Roevember 17
  • Donald Trump (All General Trump Conversations Here)
    ↪flannel jesus
    :100:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Mikie
    :up:
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    ↪Michael
    :100: :up:
  • A model of everything
    A model of everything — Carlo Roosen
    Since your "model" is merely "conceptual", self-consistently it cannot explain, or encompass, "fundamental reality" or "consciousness", and therefore, does not "model everything".

    Also, time (e.g. "conceptual reality is past", etc) is not fundamental (re: QFT & GR).

    Lastly, even if we could, why would we build a suboptimal bottleneck (re: "consciousness") into a self-modeling metacognitive adaptive system?
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Baden
    :sweat: Sounds like you drank the Polymarket kool-aid, mate.

    ↪Tzeentch
    What "suspense"? "Muppet B" is crashing and burning today even worse than he did from early voting in 2020. :victory: :mask:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Wayfarer
    :clap: :lol:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Addendum to
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/940299

    part 2:



    >>> Roevember 19

    @Baden @Mikie @Wayfarer
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    @BitconnectCarlos

    And now if HAMAS kills all of the remainimg hostages in retaliation for taking out the terrorist Sinwar, do you expect the war criminal Netanyahu to agree to an immediate ceasefire in Gaza? :shade:
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    Then you wouldn't be an atheist about a necessary entity and you wouldn't commit the contradiction.
    — Hallucinogen

    You are misusing the term "atheist". An atheist is someone who believes that no deities exist [outside of the heads of true believers].
    — Michael
    :up:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Today in Trumpenfreude

    ↪Baden

    ↪Mikie


    Trending ...

    :victory: :mask:

    I wonder if Diaper Don The Fascist Clown will watch the FOX Noise interview with VPOTUS tonight? :smirk:

    >>> Roevember 20

    @Wayfarer @Fooloso4 @Benkei @jorndoe
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Mikie
    :rofl:
  • The Empty Suitcase: Physicalism vs Methodological Naturalism
    It appears to me that you [@Baden] miss the point. Physicalism is a metaphysical theory, not a scientific theory. All coherent metaphysical theories are unfalsifiable. It's certainly reasonable to remain agnostic to metaphysical theories ... — Relativist
    :100:

    Metaphysical naturalism (or physicalism) fills in the gap that scientism leaves. Of course, it's not necessarily true, but it does defeat the claim (of some theists) that we "need" supernaturalism to account for aspects of the world.
    :up: :up:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Roevember 21
    — 180 Proof

    What does this mean?
    — Mikie
    21 days until Roevember election day (i.e. the Harris-Walz blowout).
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    15October24

    https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey-research/2024-swing-state-project/02Oct2024-toplines

    Likely Voters in 7 swing states (Oct 2024):

    "H 49% v T 48%"

    If T overcount (re: women) 2%, then

    H 49% v T 46% :victory: :mask:

    "Wishful thinking?" TBD.

    >>> Roevember 21
  • Art Lies Beyond Morality
    Rationality and its language of logic therefore are contained within the continuity_continuum of existence. The continuity_continuum of existence being the sine qua non prerequisite for reason, it can make no start outside the material theater of action. Given this fact, there can be no rational explanation for existence-itself-in-general. — ucarr
    I.e. existence (reality) is the all-encompassing – eternal, unbounded – brute fact. As a pandeist, I concur :100: :up:
  • I do not pray. Therefore God exists.
    Rather than "Oramus, ergo non est deus", how about ...
    If man is imago dei

    and if the devil is imago hominis,

    then god is imago diaboli;

    ergo imagoes est. Amen.
    :sparkle: :pray:
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    ↪jorndoe
    :100:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ... a ridiculous unsupported prediction. — Baden
    We shall see soon enough.
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    I'm just sayin' I'll do that if you're right about the national polls; what'll you do if I'm right that you're completely wrong? — Baden
    I'll live in the US struggling against a neofascist regime while you and the rest of the world will be wagging your fingers and saying "I told you so." :mask:

    In 2020 Biden-Harris won the national / popular vote by 51.3% (or margin of +4.5%) against an incumbent POTUS who actively compromised the election system. 306 electors vs 232 electors (by flipping two Republican states and winning the very same three states lost by a combined 0.7% due to HRC's arrogant neglect in 2016)! My ELECTORAL COLLEGE prediction (and reasoning for it) does not deviate significantly from the 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022 trend. If I was merely "wishful thinking", mate, I wouldn't rely on center-right to right wing news media polling (and the best stats for T therein).

    But hey you go right on bloviating from the cheap seats, my friend; I'm looking forward to that photo (the more lurid the better). :smirk:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Baden
    I don't understand your post ... but I'm now looking forward to you posting that pic. :sweat:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    12Oct24

    Sorry 180 Proof. I’ll put money on it. — Mikie
    :ok: You stick with those MAGA-GOP talking points and I'll stick with my 22Sept24 prediction¹ that Harris-Walz will win the upcoming Roevember 5th presidential election. :victory: :party:

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/934008 [1]

    Harris will beat Trump, says election prediction legend Allan Lichtman² :victory: :cool: — 180 Proof
    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/05/harris-trump-lichtman-election-prediction.html [2]

    (2022)
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/781991

    (2023)
    Also, when you say it won’t be Joe Biden as the nominee — care to bet on that too?
    — Mikie
    Like taking candy from a baby. :yum:
    — 180 Proof
    I (technically) have won this bet but lost the other one that Diaper Don wouldn't be the GOP nominee. The latter, however, no doubt contributed to the former. :up:

    ===========

    NB: Fwiw, since Labor Day I think it's reasonable to have read "mainstream" news media polls as follows –

    Given that Diaper Don The Fascist Clown & his MAGA-GOP Circus Cult have pissed-off the majority of (likely) women voters so much since 2018 (then doubled down on the blatant misogyny in 2022 and again this year), I guesstimate (not counting Dems campaigns' huge money & get-out-the-vote ground game advantages) woman voters' preference for Harris-Walz & Dems is undercounted by 2% and The Clown is thereby generally overcounted by 5% in "national polls" and overcounted by 2% in swing state polls, and so I read them accordingly [adjusted]; for example:

    swing states [T -2%]

    Forbes 11Oct24 (latest, best #s for T)

    AZ - T 51% [49] v H 46%
    GA - T 49% [47] v H 48%
    MI - T 45% [43] v H 47%
    NC - T 46% [44] v H 45%
    NV - T 47% [46] v H 48%
    PA - T 46% [44] v H 45%

    WI - T 48% [46] v H 46%

    Electors - T216 + 21 (max) v H229 + 72 (min) :cool:

    &

    national [T -5%, H +2%]

    FiveThirtyEight 12Oct24 national polls (avg.)

    T 46% [41] v H 48.5% [50.5]

    NYTimes 12Oct24 national polls (avg.)

    T 46% [41] v H 49% [51]

    The Economist 12Oct24 national polls (avg.)

    T 46.4% [41.4] v H 50.2% [52.2]

    Fox Noise 12Oct24 national polls (?)

    T 48% [43] v H 50% [52]

    ===========

    To date all (quality) polling trends favor Harris-Walz +270 Electoral College victory. Hyping election anxiety is great for motivating Democratic, Independent & GOP/suburban white women voter turnout / particpation. :strong: :mask:

    >>> Roevember 24
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    [Y]our arguments apply (at best) only to your concepts [ ... ] The discussion seems to be about an uncaused first cause, and that's an unbreakable oxymoron. As such you can only have it if you first grant it. But then you [@Hallucinogen] have proved exactly nothing. All this worked out millennia ago. If you're just working it out for yourself, some credit to you. But the argument has long been a dead letter. — tim wood
    :up: :up:
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    ↪SophistiCat
    :up: :up:

    Atheism is the rejection of theism. — DingoJones
    :Period. :100:

    @Hallucingen's OP is nonsense.
  • A Functional Deism
    However, if that is ↪180 Proof's definition of Deism ... — Gnomon
    Another trollish non sequitur ...

    (2022 – Gnomon is)
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/783863

    (2022 – as Gnomon does)
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/781656

    @tim wood
  • How can we humans avoid being just objects?
    ↪Angelo Cannata
    ???
  • Why Einstein understood time incorrectly
    ↪Banno
    :smirk:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    ↪Mikie
    :up:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    And is there a certain type of pro-Israel Jew that you do respect? — BitconnectCarlos
    Speaking for myself, I respect every pro-Isreal Jew who openly, vigourously denounces and opposes the mass murdering, ethnic cleansing, apartheid policies of the US/Nato-backed Netanyahu regime.
  • A Functional Deism
    [T]he plain bald fact of the matter is that if you [@Gnomon] do not know what it means, then your education is lacking. And not only just because you don't know what it means, but also because you don't seem to recognize that it's meaningful, or that you can easily look it up. It also means you're unfamiliar with books that commonly have comments in them in Latin, Greek, German and so forth. So while it does not say, "You're an idiot," you yourself have instead said, "I'm an idiot," and apparently proud to be. — tim wood
    :clap: :sweat:
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    ↪T Clark
    :cool:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    The only real solution here is equal rights for Palestinians, and for Israel to become a normal, modern state where multiple ethnicities can coexist. — Tzeentch
    :100: :up:

    Instead of learning from his interlocuters here, who aren't exactly dumb, he [@BitconnectCarlos] chooses to drink right wing Israeli cool aid. — Benkei
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    ↪tim wood
    :up:

    I could point out that eternal mathematical relationships (e.g., Pythagoras' theorem) don't change as everything else changes ... — Hallucinogen
    So what? "Mathematical relationships" are mere abstractions (i.e. tautologies – truth, not "being") and not events, forces, facts or things.
  • Philosophy Proper
    ↪Leontiskos
    :up:
  • Am I my body?
    I don't have a body. — Kurt Keefner
    Yes, rather you are a body (i.e. metacognitivrly self-aware, decaying flesh & bone; once an unviable foetus and not yet a rotting corpse) at the very least.

    ... 'person' is derived from 'persona' which were the masks worn by actors in Greek drama. It corresponds to 'ego', which is, we can say, the self's idea of itself, and refers to what we are consciously aware of as ourselves, who we ourselves think that we are. — Wayfarer
    :clap: :fire:

    I think "mind" is what the brain and body does ... — BC
    :100:
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