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  • Philosophy Proper
    Analytic philosophy is a toolkit and not a school of philosophy? — Leontiskos
    It's both, and nothing I've writtrn here is inconsistant with that.
  • Philosophy Proper
    ↪AmadeusD
    :up: :up:

    ↪Shawn
    As a meta/discursive practice, imo, philosophy is a 'toolkit' consisting of (e.g.) rhetorical, logical, conceptual & methodological 'tools' (techniques) and schools (paradigms / fashions ... (e.g.) analytic, dialectical-critical, hermeneutical, synthetic)) of 'tool-usage', etc.
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    ↪Hallucinogen

    Also a "necessary being" is a contradiction in terms insofar as for it to be "necessary" means that "being" is unchangeable (i.e. both being and not-being simultaneously). — 180 Proof
    Whatever else is meant by (ontologically) "necessary", this modality also implies unchangeable. The only way X is unchangeable in relation to every other changing Z (i.e. non-necessary Z) is that X itself is simultaneously X & not-X, or always in a state of all of its possible relations/modes; thus, self-contradictory.
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    The point is that denial of a necessary entity entails a contradiction. — Hallucinogen
    – IFF "a necessary entity" is not itself a contradiction in terms, which it is as I've pointed out.

    ↪DingoJones
    ???
  • Atheism about a necessary being entails a contradiction
    ↪Hallucinogen
    Afaik:

    There is no first (or last) number on the real number line.

    There is no first (or last) point on the circumference of a circle.

    There are no edges to the surface of a sphere or an infinite plane.

    Also a "necessary being" is a contradiction in terms insofar as for it to be "necessary" means that "being" is unchangeable (i.e. both being and not-being simultaneously). Ergo non-necessary being is necessary (re: PNC) as the entailed negation of the concept of "necessary being".

    Lastly, atheism denotes rejection of theism (i.e. theistic conceptions) but not any nontheisms (e.g. animism ... pandeism, acosmism).
  • Art Lies Beyond Morality
    @ucarr

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/937529
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    ↪Eros1982

    Cool— so you’re irrelevant.
    — Mikie
    :up:
  • Art Lies Beyond Morality
    Very simply, I think Morality practices 'nonreciprocal harm-prevention/reduction' whereas Art explores 'catharsis from existential limits/failures of morality' – they are complements (dialectical), not opposites (binary) – pace Nietzsche.

    (2021)
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/535255
  • "More like a blog post"
    ↪Heracloitus
    :up: :up:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    7Oct24 :fire:

    DEAR GOD,

    FREE PALESTINE
    FREE ISRAEL

    FROM THE PARTIES OF GOD. NOW!
  • Human thinking is reaching the end of its usability
    "And I'd rather be ridiculed than ignored, so thank you for the attention." :smirk:
  • The Mind-Created World
    ↪Wayfarer
    :up:
  • Human thinking is reaching the end of its usability
    Modern society is destroying itself. — Carlo Roosen
    Yes, that's entropy. :fire:

    Thinking cannot be understood by more thinking.
    And a hand cannot grasp itself just like eyes cannot see themselves and a brain cannot perceive itself. Big whup. But thinking often works, that's all we need to know. "Non-thinking" – autopilot – is involuntary therefore easy, whereas thinking (i.e. learning, creating, reflecting) is voluntary and difficult. The contrast is reflectively instructive. Read Daniel Kahneman's Thinking, Fast and Slow.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow

    And more broadly:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outline_of_thought

    Yesterday I wrote that I not only have to build this SHAI to save the world, I also have to get philosophy back on track.
    You have come to the right place, Carlo, for such delusions of grandeur to be ridiculed. :smirk:
  • The Mind-Created World
    ↪Wayfarer
    Carefully listen to both of the videos I've linked.
  • The Mind-Created World
    ↪Wayfarer
    :ok: No serious discussion to be had here, just your usual polemical Quantum-woo. :sparkle:
  • The Mind-Created World
    I wonder what David Deutsche's (probably unconscious) metaphysical commitments are — Wayfarer
    Listen to the discussion in the first youtube video I posted where Deutsch makes it clear he is a scientific realist (i.e. anti-antirealist ... anti-instrumentalist). The genesis of Hugh Everett's thesis is scientifically irrelevant and I lost interest immediately with Phillip Ball's idiotic / disingenuous first sentence "What the MWI really denies is the existence of facts at all." Again:
    'bad philosophy' (anti-realism) —> bad physics —> bad philosophy (woo-woo) — 180 Proof
  • The Mind-Created World
    ↪Wayfarer
    :clap: Well done, sir. As a layman I'm more or less an Everettian (as per D.Deutsch's version of the MWI) but your summary of the issues with CI & QBism is succinctly spot on. Nonetheless, to paraphrase the Persian poet Rumi: there would be no fool's gold, were there no fool (i.e. "bad philosophy" (anti-realism) —> bad physics —> bad philosophy...) To wit:


    :nerd:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    consider yourself ignored. — BitconnectCarlos
    :sweat: Of course, ignored again by the willfully ignorant ...

    https://inthesetimes.com/article/jewish-anti-zionism-israel-palestine-colonialism-annexation-apartheid

    "The wrong type of Jew?" ~zionfascists

    :fire:

    Ariel Sharon: "occupation"
    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-may-27-fg-mideast27-story.html

    re: documentary – "The Gatekeepers" (2012)
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/856307

    'Collective punishment' (e.g. domicide¹) and 'disproportionate retaliatory slaughter' of a several decades-long captive population for "October 7th" by (US client-state) Israel are, at least, ongoing war crimes. — 180 Proof
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-04/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/amid-israeli-destruction-in-gaza-a-new-crime-against-humanity-emerges-domicide/0000018c-d585-d751-ad8d-ffa5965e0000 [1]

    https://fnl.mit.edu/january-march-2024/domicide-the-mass-destruction-of-homes-should-be-a-crime-against-humanity/ [1]
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    More ahistorical non sequiturs & special pleadings from an apartheid-war crimes apologist. Who tf cares? :mask:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    More non sequiturs & special pleading bullshit. :shade:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    Anti-zionism is effectively anti-semitism. — BitconnectCarlos
    Oh you mean "anti-semites" like ...
    (e.g.) R. Luxemburg, S. Freud, A. Einstein, E. Fromm, P. Levi, Marek Edelman, I. Asimov, H. Arendt, I.F. Stone, N. Chomsky, H. Siegman, M. Lerner, R. Falk, T. Judt et al — 180 Proof
    https://inthesetimes.com/article/jewish-anti-zionism-israel-palestine-colonialism-annexation-apartheid :fire: :strong:

    To oppose [COLONIZER-SETTLER-APARTHEID ETHNOSTATISM] is to oppose Jewish self-determination which, if realized, would render Jews, once again, completely reliant on foreign nations for security and strip them of their autonomy....
    Yeah, because the post-1967 State of Israel has not been "completely reliant" on US (& EU/Nato) military & economic funding and logistics as well as diplomatic cover (propaganda / disinformation) for a half century ... what a lying little shit you are.
  • A Functional Deism
    As you noted, he doesn't make rational arguments — Gnomon
    And once again, like Trump, your accusation is a confession, Gnomon. :eyes: :sweat:
  • A Functional Deism
    ↪Brendan Golledge
    The member to whom I replied knows what all those terms mean.
  • A Functional Deism
    A first cause is logically necessary — Philosophim
    Maybe in metaphyasics but not for modern fundamental physics (or mathematics re: real numbers)..

    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/617855
  • Are you a seeker of truth?
    People on the forum said it is not allowed to talk about fundamental reality... — Carlo Roosen
    That's news to me. There are at leaat hundreds of threads wherein "fundamental reality" (i.e. ontology, metaphysics) is discussed. I even refer to the topic on my profile page. Use the site's search function to find those discussions and (maybe) contribute.
  • A Functional Deism
    ↪Gnomon
    :rofl: e.g. "PanEnDeism" .... "Intelligent Design" ... "Enformationism" ... Res ipsa loquitur, dude.
  • Are you a seeker of truth?
    Are you a seeker of truth? — Carlo Roosen
    I seek to understand the limits of the uses, misuses & abuses of 'truth'.

    [M]y challenge is going to be, to get answers that are applicable to reality.
    Philosophy begns by reflecting on foundational questions which we do not know how to answer (yet), how to validly raise such questions without begging them and how to reformulate them ad infinitum or until they become empirically decidable (i.e. "applicable to reality"). As I understand it, the existential challenge is to adaptively make sense of reality in general and thereby strive to live accordingly. Seeking "to get answers" leads merely to (dogmatic, sophistical) religion, Carlo, and is not, imo, philosophy. You've come to the wrong site for "answers".

    Should humanity even want to build this SHAI?
    This pseudo-question reminds me of silly maxims like "if man was meant to fly, he would have wings". Besides, "humanity" is a concept, sir, and not an individual who can "want". Instead of idling here like a child pondering on whether or not s/he "should want" to learn from (an) adult(s), build a "superhuman artificial intelligence" first so that then you/we can discuss with it what questions it/we should by asking.. :brow:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Today in Trumpenfreide

    fu45 :clap:
    https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-job-growth-surges-september-unemployment-rate-falls-41-2024-10-04/

    *


    An anti-fascist vote is NOT an endorsement for the Democratic party. — Cornel West, 2020

    >>> Roevember 32
  • What is love?
    There is nothing so whole as a broken heart. — an old Rabbi
    Deep love seems to be mutual joy inspite of rather than because of – surrender (e.g. "unselfing" ~ I. Murdoch) without idealization. (Spinoza meets Žižek) :broken:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    The Middle East is in a perpetual war zone that benefits a big ass weapon industry. — javi2541997
    :up:
  • Fundamental reality versus conceptual reality
    ↪Wayfarer
    :snicker:
  • Fundamental reality versus conceptual reality
    No good will come of such foolishness. — Banno
    :up: *Quantum-woo* is @Wayfarer's catnip (& @Gnomon's too).

    ↪litewave
    :up: :up:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    ↪BitconnectCarlos
    Israeli occupation-oppression has radicalized generations of the Palestinian population. Likud's (Bibi's) zionfascist forever war is the goal. Stop lying to yourself.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    ↪BitconnectCarlos
    Like Trump, your accusations are confessions. :sweat:
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    ↪javi2541997
    :up: :up:
  • US Election 2024 (All general discussion)
    Today in Trumpenfreude

    :lol: The Insurrectionist-Fascist Clown is shitting the bed (& his XXL man-baby diapers) ...

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/10/jack-smith-donald-trump-filing-immunity/

    >>> Roevember 34.
  • Abortion - Why are people pro life?
    ↪Banno
    :clap: :cool:
  • Abortion - Why are people pro life?
    ↪Banno
    :100: :up:

    "pro-life" folks ... who are also ... pro-death penalty... seek to control (reverse) demographic trends by controlling women's bodies ...
    —180 Proof

    Absolutely spot on! And I'm not American.
    I had similar thoughts when I read the shocking Guardian article re Capital punishment, yesterday.
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/935435
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/29/america-executions-death-penalty
    — Amity
    :fire:
  • A Functional Deism
    Pandeism (all is spirit) and Materialism (all is matter) — Gnomon
    :rofl: Stunning ignorance. :lol:

    You asked me to reply to comments that you had previously made. — Brendan Golledge
    No I didn't. I asked you to philosophically consider (my proposed summaries of monist-immanent) pandeism & acosmism as alternatives to (dualist-transcendent) deism.
  • Israel killing civilians in Gaza and the West Bank
    One can now apparently be a "conscientious objector" re: providing security for Jewish spaces — BitconnectCarlos
    That's almost as obscenely vile as Israeli apartheid that everyday oppresses non-Jews especially in the Occupied Territories, West Bank & Gaza. Police (everywhere) should "conscientiously object" to protecting only Official Israeli spaces (e.g. consulates, embassies, government offices, businesses, etc) instead. Mass murderers, no matter how triumphant they are in the moment, reap what they fucking sow. :fire: :mask:
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