My conclusion - identifying one element as the cause of another depends on where you look. What constitutes the cause is a matter of convention, not fact. It works when you can isolate the elements of the phenomena you are studying at from their environments... e.g. if I push the grocery cart it moves. — T Clark
That's part of the problem... the idea is equivocal.We may have different notions of abduction. — Janus
I'm reading "Against Method" — Relativist
Well, why not aim for the best explanation one can think of? — Janus
This was a side-kick at Aristotle's causes. Perhaps for Aristotle "fire is hot" is a description, but "fire is hot because heat is its essential nature" is an explanation. The explanation gives the cause. Elsewhere I've argued against causes, for various reasons.I take explanations to answer question of "why" — javra
Nothing more nor less than creating explanatory hypotheses. I'm not seeing the difficulty you are apparently having with the idea. — Janus
"plausible" adds the normative element that lets confirmation bias in. We can now reject all the explanations we take as implausible.There are not innumerable possible plausible explanations. — Janus
Besides, the point remains, gravity can serve as an explanation. — javra
Laws appeal to symmetries. So they are grounded in mathematical logic. — apokrisis
:wink:"be-cause of gravity" — javra
I've brought up conspiracy theories, and argued that it is irrational to embrace them - based on abdduction. — Relativist
...happens a lot more then it perhaps ought, around these fora. A favourite grump of mine.entertaining Aristotelian notions... — javra
Does it explain why? Or does it just detail the description of the motion?We then use the notion of gravity to explain why an object thrown up into thin air will always come back down to earth... — javra
Leaving aside why there must be such an explanation, a careful look will show that "abduction" doesn't provide such an explanation. "Inference to best explanation" is utterly hollow, until one sets out what a best explanation is. Further, is the mooted "natural law" an explanation of what happens, or just a description - "for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction" sets out what happens; does it explain what happens?Here's how I approach it: some explanation is needed for the constant conjunction of past regularities. I judge that the "inference to best explanation" for this is that there exist laws of nature that necessitate this behavior. Inferring a best explanation is rational - it's a form of abductive reasoning. — Relativist
This is a simple logical truth - a hypotheses being unfalsified does not make it more likely to be true. On this we agree. We could take a Bayesian approach to selecting amongst competing hypotheses, but note well that this is not adopting induction. There is a world of difference between an hypothesis being unfalsified and it's being more likely than other hypotheses. Popper’s point was exactly that: science isn’t about confirming hypotheses through accumulation of positive cases (which falls afoul of Hume’s problem of induction), but about weeding them out through falsification. A hypothesis standing unrefuted is not “more true,” it’s just “not yet eliminated.”What is central to the scientific method of the empirical sciences (in contrast to what some term “the science of mathematics” and such, which have no such method) is communal verification via empirical means (aka, peer review and replicability of test results) that falsifiable hypotheses are not in fact false and, thereby, are likely to be true. — javra
Nice. But is it right, or even fair, to lump all this together and call it "abduction", and then to set it out in some gross oversimplification such asAs with all trial-and-error heuristics, most abductions are bound to be wrong. Yes, of course. Notwithstanding, for any paradigm shift to ever occur one must first conceive of a new paradigm from outside the boundaries of the old that better accounts for the known data. This will not be a process of deduction, nor will it typically be one of induction (generalization from particulars, for example), but instead will typically commence with what we in retrospect will then likely claim to be a flash of insight, as per the Eureka moment; this then yet being abduction. One which happens to eventually produce a better understanding regarding what is by newly devised deductions and inductions, which yet pivot on the given roundabout abduction. But again, without being falsifiable, it will not be science (not of the empirical kind). — javra
The surprising fact, C, is observed.
But if A were true, C would be a matter of course.
Hence, there is reason to suspect that A is true. — SEP article
His work is a bit broader than just that. His classic formulation, "anything goes", is of course mistaken; but the interesting bit is how it is mistaken - what it is that restricts which ideas are considered scientific and which are not.From what I know of Feyerabend, he appears to be discussing the creative processes of scientists — Relativist
More recent developments in Philosophy show us how experience and custom are themselves grounded in the community in which we live. To doubt requires a background of presumed certainty. Those fundamental beliefs are what enable doubt.Hume concluded that fundamental beliefs, such as the existence of an external world or the existence of the self, are not rationally justifiable but are legitimate because they are the result of experience and custom. — JuanZu
Abduction here leads away from the better answer!The surprising fact, Brownian motion, is observed.
But if there are eddies in the fluid, Then Brownian motion would be a matter of course.
Hence, there is reason to suspect that there are eddies in the fluid.
But this abduction was mistaken!The surprising fact, the procession of Mercury, is observed.
But if Vulcan were true, the procession of Mercury would be a matter of course.
Hence, there is reason to suspect that Vulcan exists.
If a conclusion were "determined" (not underdetermined) it would be a deduction- a conclusion that follows necessarily.
Of course, as you said, deduction would be preferred, but in real life (including science) we rarely have sufficient information to make a deduction. But there is often sufficient information to support some hypotheses more than others. — Relativist
Should. But should it?...it should involve actively trying to falsify current accepted belief and theory and attempting to find better, more comprehensive hypotheses. — Janus
In reality, we do not have just A - we have alternate hypotheses, each of which explains C. And we have the possibility that C is incorrect. C is also theory laden - observations dependent on our prior presumptions as to what it is we are observing.The surprising fact, C, is observed.
But if A were true, C would be a matter of course.
Hence, there is reason to suspect that A is true. — SEP article
And to the problem of which hypothesis is best. Abduction does not tell us. It instead brings in the auxiliaries of simplicity and coherence, aesthetic preferences that remain unclarified within the context of abduction. So again, abduction amounts to choosing the hypothesis that looks good to you.Given evidence E and candidate explanations H1,…, Hn of E, infer the truth of that Hi which best explains E. — SEP article
—to repeat, they should be consistent with current scientific theory and understanding. If you want to call that confirmation bias, then you'd better apply that judgement to the whole of science. — Janus
Conformation of the current scientific theory. Feyerabend would have a party here.Second, abduction misses the paradigm-dependence of hypothesis generation. — Joshs
Abduction entails drawing a non-necessary inference from a set of data (intended to be all available, relevant data), that consists of an explanatory hypothesis for that data - one that is deemed to explain the data better* than alternatives. — Relativist
I was disagreeing with the assertion that abduction has anything to to with confirmation bias, and I say this is not so because hypotheses are to be tested, not accepted on account of their "feeling right" or whatever. — Janus
Yep. Just so. Do you?I don't think you understand what 'abduction' means in the context of science. — Janus
Ok, that's it's proposed use - how does it manage to do this?It is the use of the imagination to come up with what seems to be the most fitting explanatory hypotheses. — Janus
But there is no method for doing this - only what someone claims to be the "best" hypothesis.to come up with what, consistent with whatever criteria, seems to be the best explanation possible — Janus
Well, if that is all it is, then it doesn't tell us which to choose among the many - which is "best"...To put it concisely 'abduction" simply refers to the process of forming hypotheses. — Janus
Do you reject everything science teaches? — Relativist
There's that word "best" again. It hides that the criteria being used are things such as parsimony, coherence, and predictive success, normative concerns. Why not drop the pretence of "abduction" as a seperate rational process and look instead at the basis that scientists use for choosing between rival theories.Abduction is the use of the creative imagination in formulating testable hypotheses that might best explain the observed facts. — Janus
Notice that testing is a seperate process to abduction - one adduces the "best" explanation and then tests it. Abduction is not necessary for testing an hypothesis.An abductive hypothesis is always provisional—open to rigorous testing, and thus quite the opposite of confirmation bias. — Janus
You are waving words around as if they were arguments. What is abduction, and how does it help? And the answer is quite vague. Abduction is little more than an attempt to formalise confirmation bias. It's presented as "given some evidence, infer the hypothesis that would best explain it" where "best" is left ill-defined. This leaves it entirely open to arbitrarily inferring any explanation to be the best....apply abduction... — Relativist
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