Okay I see, understood.

I guess what I was trying to say was if I was in a really bad situation financially, health etc. I would choose not to bring a being into this life until I am in a better place. I wouldn't want it to suffer or have a bad quality of life. The quality of life and suffering would solely be my view on it as one mans meat is another mans poison. If that makes sense?

It's not for anyone to decide except the being themselves. I do not have everything in life but I am very happy with what I have.

Yeah I agree with you. If bringing in a life which is going to give it a poor quality of life (human or animal) then why do it. It's a choice.

Why work hard all your life, work 9-5 (for most people) build/buy assets like houses, cars etc. save money but then only to die and lose it all?
I come from a background of nothing, so I want to build strong foundations for future generations and it can be passed down to my kids, onto theirs etc. I wouldn't want my kids to go through what I did, I'd want them to have a good start in life which I didn't and all of my friends did.

Hey I agree with you that there are so many vegan options nowadays (and will continue to be more over the coming years) does it even justtiy to continue to eat meat?

you can't recycle pizza boxes?? Is that the state/country you're in or in general?