Sure not everything is great, but you can make it better. — Mark Dennis
Alright, Sir Righteous. Seems you know exactly what you're talking about. /s — Swan
Maybe I’m a bit less ‘hippy’ though. The term ‘love’ seems a bit overused and ambiguous for my liking. — I like sushi
I mean that we’ve been stuck in a world (humanity), for a long time, where ethical ideas and law have taken away human choice and responsive social activity.
Can you see how that if I command you to value birds (when you don't of your own sentiment), then your actions will be hollow, and you'll likely drop iy when you realize I have no power over you?
As a species we're wired to deny that we're ever fucked - especially by our own wishful negligence. Except for fringe types, homo insapiens refuses to be pessimistic enough to grapple en mass with the hazards trending (above) and so they'll go on 'amusing themselves to death' until they're begging to die rather than watch each other's babies starve or slowly waste away from thirst in briny drowned cityscapes. The optimistic cunts who wage wars feeding masses of other optimistic cunts down abattoirs of convenience, profit or ruin always do so again because THIS TIME IT WILL BE DIFFERENT; the latest and greatest war to come: surviving the "climate change" (near?)extinction event. AND THIS TIME, FOR US, IT WILL BE DIFFERENT ... for fuck's sake.
A little too uncompromising was I? Maybe so. I think I am just losing patience with philosophizing by way of equivocation. Start with a premise X, then start arguing as though X means Y. Pessimism is not a "broad" term. It literally means, 'tending to see the worst.' The normative denotation is already built in to the term and it is negative. So optimism vs. pessimism? Easy choice. — Pantagruel
"... masses of other optimistic cunts ..."
—180 Proof
This is pretty raw and real.. Are you okay? — Mark Dennis
So you my teacher have commanded me to value birds, (I love birds haha) one day I realise that you have no power over me. Have I stopped valuing you? — Mark Dennis
Optimism is the expectation that things won't get any worse; and (somehow) things will get better. (Re: nostalgic)
• Pessimism is the expectation that things won't get any better; and (somehow - let me count the effin' ways) things will get worse. (Re: entropic)
Well first I’d just like to know where exactly you heard that Jesus said Morality is often for show? Where is that written exactly? — Mark Dennis
it a rule to value things or do we make rules around our values? — Mark Dennis
- Matthew 23 v1-7Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
2 The Pharisees and the teachers of the Law are experts in the Law of Moses. 3 So obey everything they teach you, but don’t do as they do. After all, they say one thing and do something else.
4 They pile heavy burdens on people’s shoulders and won’t lift a finger to help. 5 Everything they do is just to show off in front of others. They even make a big show of wearing Scripture verses on their foreheads and arms, and they wear big tassels[a] for everyone to see. 6 They love the best seats at banquets and the front seats in the meeting places. 7 And when they are in the market, they like to have people greet them as their teachers.
You can't be made to value something. You can only be made to put on a show.
Why would we need to make rules around our values?
Oh you mean Matthew 23. He didn’t accuse them of making a show of morality. — Mark Dennis
I don’t know about that, biology does a good job of making us value air, food, water etc. Maybe I’m faking it though, maybe I don’t really need food or water or air? — Mark Dennis
Well for example, you don’t make a rule “don’t kill” unless you value life in some way. Ethics is the study of value theory. I don’t really know how to put this any more simply for you. — Mark Dennis
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