To wave all this off with “too hot? Try more air conditioners” is something I felt compelled to call out. — Mikie

Saying something like “maybe we need more air conditioners” in relation to climate change is a dismissive, ignorant statement. And I’m sure you know it. So why say it?

Yes, there are trade offs to building things. The externalities involved in fossil fuel infrastructure, extraction, and use are enormous and destructive, and have existed for decades. The damage to the ecosystem, apart from the floods, droughts, wildfires, and agricultural destruction is beyond comprehension.

To wave all this off with “too hot? Try more air conditioners” is something I felt compelled to call out.

If it gets too hot, maybe we need more air conditioners. — Hanover

This is the kind of analysis I would expect from Karoline Leavitt.

So the genocide temporarily ends, now that Gaza has been long bombed into rubble and tens of thousands of children killed.

Israel has done itself irreparable harm. But glad to see them doing the bare minimum.

:rofl: Good one, “risible” guy. I’ll definitely not ignore criticism from the biggest, most pretentious, know-nothing moron on the forum. :up:

:up:

Is Hastie someone to cheer for or not? Lol

See above.

So more backpedaling and face-saving. You’re bad even at sophomoric equivocation. :yawn:

Next time, skip commenting on things you don’t understand. You look less stupid

Why is it not possible? — BitconnectCarlos

Because as long as Gaza is occupied in an open-air prison, there will be people fighting against it. Understandably. Plus there’s no way to do it. It’s not like destroying a building. Hence why there’s been no criteria for what would constitute the “destruction” of Hamas, and why Hamas is alive and well, now going on 2 years. This genocide will only lead to more members.

But it’s never been a realistic goal anyway. It’s just a pretext to placate apologists for state genocide like you.

Are you, in theory, in favor of the destruction of Hamas? Or those who committed the massacre? — BitconnectCarlos

Both. In theory. But I’d like to see the destruction of the bigger terrorists in Likud.

You're ok with Israel destroying Hamas — BitconnectCarlos

Since that’s not possible, and thus just an obvious, unfalsifiable, infinitely used pretext for genocide — no. I’m not ok with bullshit excuses.

Sure. But that’s not what they’re doing, and you know it. So does the rest of the world. Including, shockingly, the majority of the US.

Japan — BitconnectCarlos

Yeah, exactly. More sad, tired deflections.

Israel is committing genocide. Has been for 2 years. When you address that by condemning it, you’ll be taken more seriously.

You're the genocide apologist and fascist. — BitconnectCarlos

:rofl:

Good one.

Going from house to house murdering, raping, and torturing certainly doesn't mean good. — BitconnectCarlos

Pretty awful, actually. Now times that by a couple thousand, and you get the Israeli government. A far greater terrorist organization than Hamas. But be know you can’t see that in your bubble.

Case in point of a genocide apologist and Nazi sympathizer.

Right, right, it’s really the PALESTINIANS that are to blame. Cool diversion. May have actually worked two years ago. No one is buying it now. But please keep repeating it, as it drives more people away from the savage regime you defend. :yawn:

At this point we should change this thread to genocide apologism”.

Good game. I resign. Chess.com is being wonky so it won’t let me right now, but I do.

Saw that move yesterday but then forgot when I moved knight. Also, I should have opened with Kings Indian or French. Would have been a little more exciting.

I see you play 5 minute games— happy to play either that or 3 if we can coordinate a time.

You take the queen, and the game is over. In my opinion. But y’all do what you want.

Not exactly sure we’re talking about the same thing. I’m curious as to why he hasn’t taken your queen yet.

Don’t worry, I beat his ass a few years back. :strong: lol

Wtf?

Oops.

Americans’ Support for Israel Dramatically Declines, Times/Siena Poll Finds

Disapproval of the war appears to have prompted a striking reassessment by American voters of their broader sympathies in the decades-old conflict in the region, with slightly more voters siding with Palestinians over Israelis for the first time since The Times began asking voters about their sympathies in 1998.

Nice to see good news. Unfortunately the genocide continues with government approval anyway. Really stupid move by Trump— one of many.

Thanks.

Weird that there's barely any mention of the most high-profile political assassination — AmadeusD

There’s 11 pages worth of it, in fact. Try paying attention.

https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/16164/the-ballot-or/p1

The majority of responses have not been on Twitter, but even had they been (im not on it - i imagine it is rife) they are not 'the world is ending' tweets at all. — AmadeusD

They are. Not being on it, it’s ridiculous to assert otherwise (for anyone wanting to be taken seriously, so this excludes you of course). There’s talk about revolution, about civil war, about things being “forever changed” after this, etc etc. (Let me guess: that doesn’t count because it’s not literally talking about the end of the world.)

I have still yet to see anyone present anything (that isn't clipped in bad faith) that might be held up to prove his sins. — AmadeusD

What a shocker.

The left continues to simply pretend political violence is both inevitable and justifiable — AmadeusD

No one is saying that. No one serious. Try getting out more.

Ironic, considering a right-winger was shot to death and celebrated by the left. — AmadeusD

No one serious is celebrating his death, despite what the conservative narrative would have you believe. Try getting out more.

I also note no denunciation of the murder. — AmadeusD

Then, as usual, you aren’t paying attention. In fact, it was strongly condemned immediately by political leaders, business leaders, celebrities, and the vast majority of Americans. Takes real effort not to notice this and then embarrassingly claim there was “no denunciation.” What dream world are you living in exactly?

I’ll skip the rest. I assume it’s more of the same. Go back to pretending to be a free thinker while inadvertently repeating Brietbart talking points verbatim. :up:

Haven’t had time to follow too closely, so I wonder: how is labor doing so far and what are Albanese’s polling numbers like? Particularly interested in climate policy.

Thanks guys. :up:

Why is it impossible to upload a picture? It says paste link to image, and that usually doesn’t work either. I just want to load a picture of a chess board.

Sounds good. :up:

@Moliere

Good game.

Unacceptable

@Moliere

Losing interest? Lol

:up: Accepted

Currently playing Moliere, but once I beat him I’ll move on to you. :wink:

[oops Nevermind — I can play multiple games at once and sent you a challenge]

I do what I want. Lol

Stonewall baby

Game on.

Just isn’t compatible on my phone. Play on chess.com:

https://www.chess.com/member/seinsfrage

By the same logic, everything Likud has done over the years justifies the actions of Hamas. As an evil organization, they’ve given up all rights to peace. Eventually, after decades of keeping people in open air prisons and murdering innocent people again and again, there’s bound to be reactions.

By their own logic, we shouldn’t condemn Hamas. They certainly don’t condemn Likud. They find a way to justify their atrocities. Well, so can Hamas. In fact, they have a better argument.

Playing Devil’s advocate, Likud’s actions make internal logical sense. Ideally, the Palestinians would just go away, to Egypt or anywhere else, they’d take over Gaza and West Bank, there’d be a buffer zone between neighboring countries, and that would be the end of it.

This is the OBVIOUS goal. Eliminating Hamas never was. October 7th was a pretext to just take it all once and for all. Fortunately, the world really isn’t buying it— yet they’ll push on through until every Palestinian is dead or displaced. They’re making Gaza an unlivable hellhole.

At this point, if I were Palestinian I’d just move out of there. They’ve lost. The problem is, there’s nowhere to go.

So this genocide (oh, sorry, I mean ethnic cleansing) has nearly succeeded. A few thousand more dead babies (oops, I mean Hamas combatants) and destroyed buildings should do the trick over the next few years. All with the weapons and support of the US.

Just want to put this prediction here for my future self:

All the hysteria and grandiose claims being made about Kirk’s death, how everything will change and how the “Movement” will thrive now etc etc., is so blatantly stupid and shortsighted as to be embarrassing. People simply cannot think long term or outside of their current emotions.

What will happen? Nothing. People will flail, and that’s it. It’ll make the year-end news summaries as a blip. The media will talk about it for a bit, until the next shiny object appears. I give it two weeks, if that. Then it becomes a secondary story. Information about the shooter and his trial will make news, but not front page, and by year’s end all of these world-is-ending tweets will finally be seen for what they are: the usual irrational, short term hysterics that are typical of the snowflake Right.

If you genuinely believe anything that's happening in the US is remotely "fascist", it is you who is the extremist here. — Tzeentch

:scream:

Can’t call fascists fascists anymore? No, sorry. You talk and act like fascists and extremists, you’ll be identified as such — accurately.

Besides, I don’t see calls for the degenerate in the White House to lessen the rhetoric. When I hear that from the same people, I’ll give it a moment’s thought. Otherwise, it’s dismissed as the typical behavior of hypocrites and partisans.