There is no self-sufficient and uninterpreted use of the formalism of quantum theory that can be of any use in making predictions of empirical observations. — Pierre-Normand

How would I know, what is your point? — Metaphysician Undercover

Mathematics, geometry and logic are all forms of philosophy. — Metaphysician Undercover

The parallel postulate is geometry, not mathematics. — Metaphysician Undercover

Not all logical axioms are mathematical axioms. The parallel postulate might be a self-evident truth, and it might be a logical axiom, but it is not mathematical, it is geometrical. Do you recognize the difference between mathematics and geometry? — Metaphysician Undercover

So you are saying that some conventions are more widely accepted than others. — Metaphysician Undercover

So you are saying that some conventions are more widely accepted than others. — Metaphysician Undercover

It is relevant because there is point to be made about the difference between

1) "multiplication is commutative"

and

2) "There is only one God and he had a Son"

Civilizations thousands of miles apart independently have conventions that assert 1) but not 2) — Frederick KOH

So you are saying that some conventions are more widely accepted than others. — Metaphysician Undercover

How are the assertions made in mathematics essentially different from the assertions made in religion? They are both based in convention. — Metaphysician Undercover

Philosophy only in the sense of what's left after you take out the formal and empirical parts of your area of inquiry. Or to borrow from another phrase, "discipline of the gaps". — Frederick KOH

all human activities are practiced philosophically insofar as human worldviews, involving ethical, aesthetic and metaphysical assumptions, however tacit they may be, are always involved. — John

Equations must be interpreted, and experiments conducted, by homo philosophicus — John

On the other hand every scientist enacts some kind philosophy, just as all other people do. — John

But my earlier point is, people are often saying this sort of thing, but not citing the apparent purveyors of it. — mcdoodle

That is why mathematical axioms must all be verified, they may be false. — Metaphysician Undercover

In philosophy, an axiom is a self-evident truth, and therefore cannot be wrong. — Metaphysician Undercover

Since the postulate is posited for some purpose, not because it is a self-evident truth, as is the case in philosophy, the postulate may be false. — Metaphysician Undercover

Aren't all assertions based on conventions? — Metaphysician Undercover

How are the assertions made in mathematics essentially different from the assertions made in religion? They are both based in convention. — Metaphysician Undercover

its taste is not represented but presented in my conscious awareness. — jkop

The thing is, I'm looking for a deeper conception of the postmodern view of the problem. — BenignParadigm

It's a pretty silly piece of reasoning, so my advice is to embrace it on behalf of your opponent in order to show them where it leads.

But Western thinking has honed in on what can be measured quantitatively and reproduced in the public domain as the sole criterion of truth. Which is pretty well the exact definition of 'scientism'.