Whereas in "civilized" countries, a woman needs to live up to a certain standard — baker
How about the situation in "civilized" countries, where a woman who doesn't wear make-up and who doesn't wear high heels and a suffficiently short skirt or tight pants, has fewer chances of getting a job in comparison to the woman who is dressed that way (both competing for the same position, and not as a dancer in an adult bar)?
Women are "free" not to wear make-up etc. at their risk. — baker
Not a clue. — Kenosha Kid
Why don't you care? — baker
And how do you propose to do that?? — baker
There is too much socialism in this system now. Add more and it will become even more inefficient. This system desperately needs to cleans itself by going through a massive recession (depression) which will allow it to at least work the best it can. Right now it's a complete farce, a combination of mafia politics and corporatism. — synthesis
What I'm concerned about though is how women are in a wardrobe dilemma. Dress in a burqa and it's a sign of oppression at the hands of men, dress in a mini-skirt and it's again that. So, are we supposed to look for the Aristotelian golden mean here? A knee-length skirt and mutatis mutandis other clothing items? — TheMadFool
Anyway, coming to the main issue the OP is about, why aren't Christian nuns allowed to dress in miniskirts? In other words, why are mini-skirts and bikinis inappropriate for nuns? — TheMadFool
What can I do, there's still a smidgen of a romantic in me, thinking that politics ought to be about, you know, getting things done. Silly me! — baker
How does this refer to anything I said? — baker
My point is that if one doesn't believe in objective morality, then how can one hope to get along with others in the pursuit of some common goal (which is, presumably, what politics is about — baker
"For the most part, people pursue their own interests rather than a common good."
Dismissing politics right off the bat! Yay! — baker
My point is that if one doesn't believe in objective morality, then how can one hope to get along with others in the pursuit of some common goal (which is, presumably, what politics is about, ie. the pursuit of some common goal)? — baker
Can you have a look at my reply to baker above? — TheMadFool
If you're talking about index funds here like ssu was, then this collapse doesn't happen, at least not overall. — Pfhorrest
You need to widen your perspective a little bit. Most young people act as if the ten years they can remember the the entirety of human history.
We happen to be in a low point, no doubt, but these things are cyclical. You need to study up on your economic cycles and history, in general. And believe me, socialism is not going to save anybody more than the time it takes to destroy whatever generated the wealth it absconds. — synthesis
Is being French a disability? — Baden
Well, it isn't clear to me that we're here to learn whether homosexuality, or being Black, or being Jewish, or being disabled, etc. is or is not a defect. — Ciceronianus the White
Kid, it's a miracle that large groups of people are able to do anything besides beat the crap out of each other 24/7. Capitalism is what it is (and has many contradictions), but look at what it has done to lift billions of poor souls out of abject poverty.
You have a better idea? — synthesis
So you're actually saying that if infinite regress is impossible so has to be a necessary existent — BARAA
In fact, Avicenna's point of this proof was to prove that one or more necessary beings have to exist so yes I agree with you,this proof alone doesn't prove the uniqueness (oneness) of that being.... — BARAA
You have to keep in mind that all markets are horribly corrupt at present. — synthesis
we'll have an infinite regress which is impossible or there will be a first event — BARAA
therefore its cause is a thing not an event — BARAA
I'm saying that left wing politically correct positions are adopted for the purposes of causing disruption — counterpunch
The problem with politically correct lefty keyboard warriors; apart from their overwhelming ignorance, is their overwhelming ignorance of the implications for society - of their supposed moral goods. — counterpunch
Really. Where did you come up with that pearl? — synthesis
The most reasonable explanation why some stocks are not attached to any normal pricing model of future growth (as with Tesla) is index investing: people invest passively in an fund trying to copy the index, which then means that the most risen stocks are bought...because they have risen in the first place, which then makes the stocks rise in price even more. Which actually doesn't make sense. — ssu
Communists may be happy. — ssu
In order to understand capitalism, you need to put aside your socialist sensitivities.
In capitalism, people are expendable. It's about living for an idea, even if the person living for that idea dies in the process. — baker
In both pictures, women are covered from head to toe. Yet, one is considered the epitome of virtue and the other is seen as the very definition of oppression. — TheMadFool
Without parties we get the single-party politics of fascism and communism. In democratic countries, at least one can choose to assemble with others of like mind and influence politics. He can also, like myself, remain independent of any single party. — NOS4A2
I have never once denounced partisanship, a fundamental feature of democracy — NOS4A2
Everybody is always arguing for and against something. There are no absolutes in thinking.
You want as much freedom as is possible. Don't you? — synthesis
The Czech Republic is not socialist either. They replaced the word “socialist” in the name Czechoslovak Socialist Republic with the word “federal” back in 1990, shortly before the country dissolved. — NOS4A2
One million Polish immigrant workers coming to the UK alongside other EU immigrant do have an effect and building new homes likely hasn't kept pace with the demand. — ssu
Nobody is forcing anybody to do anything. — synthesis
Perhaps we have different conceptions of “socialism”. I’m speaking of countries, past and present, that explicitly or actively seek to achieve socialism, like Venezuela or Cuba or North Korea. When you say “socialism” do you mean state intervention? — NOS4A2
What do you think about the nationalisation of land and lending of land like what exists in Singapore? — Judaka
Or advocating for a smart tax system and economic redistribution system which allows the many to benefit from our increasingly efficient productivity capacity? — Judaka
People say Socialism exists in Canada and the Scandinavian countries and it does but what actually exists is a mixed economy. Instead of saying "Capitalism is the problem and Socialism is the solution", which leads one to the conclusion that for example, Canada might be trying to abolish Capitalism and replace it with Socialism. It'd be better to talk about what industries or services are mixed and basically, where Capitalism is screwing the average citizen and it might be better for the government to provide an alternative. — Judaka
Singapore has a declining birth rate too, yet boasts a 90% homeownership rate ... Hungary and Romania have the highest rates of homeownership in Europe, at 91% and 95% but have birth rates of 1.55 and 1.76 respectively. — Judaka
Culturally speaking, millennials need to use their 20s at university, building up their career, the average age of having a first child has increased in the majority of developed countries and by five years or more since the 1960s. If your first child is later then the expectation of it being likely to have fewer children is logical. — Judaka
While I think economic security could dissuade individuals from starting families, across the board, it does not appear to be the cause or a solution for low birth rates because if it was, why would the US and Sweden have similar birth rates? — Judaka
There were Victorians producing what we can confidently label "pornography" for sale. It was an up-market trade. Some of it was soft -- from gauzy soft to harder material. What Dodgson was doing might make later observers nervous and squeamish, but it wasn't porn.
The Victorians also liked to make headless photographs. Victorian snuff? More likely they did it because they discovered they could. — Bitter Crank
What would be an interesting consequence of this hypothetical is that unless all the industry leaders got together at some big s.p.e.c.t.r.e-style conference to set this year's stupidity targets, then the process, as an organic one, would eventually undermine their own intentions. — Isaac
Millgram (of obedience study fame) had a really interesting way of looking at issues like these (the system undermining its own existence). He posited that our economic society has become sufficiently complex that no individual can clearly see the bigger picture of what success in their particular job is actually for. The consequence being that each individual can quite vociferously pursue a take which actually undermines their own position simply because their task (and more importantly their reward structure) is couched in small-picture terms, yet the consequences of their success at it affects the big picture. — Isaac
Do you think everybody should succeed? — synthesis
That's just the way people are. No system is going to root that out [and as it turns out, the people who chose themselves to be the saviors always end up being more corrupt than the original thieves]. — synthesis
The best chance we seem to have is in allowing people the opportunity to do the best they can for themselves and their families. — synthesis
What I said was think more people try to escape from socialist states than move to them. — NOS4A2
Imagine if one of those girls that Carroll photographed was, say, 3 months under the age of consent - 16, say. Then photographing her would certainly be suggestive of paedophilia, — Wayfarer
Will Brooker, who also authored Alice’s Adventures: Lewis Carroll in Popular Culture, “Lewis Carroll is treated [by his critics] like a man you wouldn’t want your kids to meet, yet his stories are still presented as classics of pure, innocent literature … Compared to some of our celebrities—the sportsmen, film directors and singers who commit real crimes like assault and abuse and are still welcomed back by fans—Lewis Carroll was a regular saint.” — FrankGSterleJr
A boring, unsexy thing called social liberalism, where the state tries to guarantee a reasonable standard of life for all citizens but still allows for personal initiatives. But maybe not the paradise for young offspring of lawyers, artists or capitalist, seeing saving the world as a possible meaning of life, daytime work working hours unthinkable. — Ansiktsburk
We used to have that in the country where I live, considered leftist by most US people. But academical family born leftist have spoiled it all with dreams. Now racism is worse than ever and our political system is in chaos. A bit anarchistic, maybe. People shoot each other. They did not use to do that here. — Ansiktsburk
As mentioned above, I bet the people in Reykjavík are a little more careful these days when doing their banking. This is a wonderful thing. I know that people in the U.S. could seem to care less who they bank with...not such a good thing. — synthesis
It is the government interfering in the markets that makes capitalism inefficient. If nothing else, and despite the fact that is human beings at the controls, it is a very efficient system. — synthesis
The alternative is to make the remaining population so stupid that they'll keep buying the same shit over and over again with the increased wages they're getting form a better employment market...
...I wonder if we can muster any evidence of that happening... — Isaac