Ok — jamalrob

Mind you I don't spend my entire day on PronHub. Now, that outta the way, can we proceed?

On the other hand, also because of the internet it's easier to meet other people now. Have you tried Tinder? — jamalrob

I'm not quite that desperate. What's going on here ask' the pig?

But I guess these days it's easier to get trapped in porn and misogyny because of the internet. — jamalrob

You think there is some link between the two if you don't mind me asking?

You know that most women do not appear on PornHub, so you already know that your perception is wrong, and in what way it is wrong. — jamalrob

Yes, but, it attracts quite a lot of attention, by many...

But whatever we tell you will probably not alter those circumstances or change how you feel. — jamalrob

What makes you say that? I've come along quite a bit, hereabouts and on the other old forum since I started engaging in philosophy for some ten even or odd years.

but I don’t believe there are stringent enough measures taken in matching the patient to the practitioner — I like sushi

Well, there you said it yourself. Psychology is still in its infancy, and Freud ain't no authority on the matter of human nature.

A followup on what I like Sushi said. People tend to have dangerous ideas that go beyond the norm. Take for example Hitler and his "personal struggle". Dangerous people abound. Not to sound paranoid; but, these intentions are hidden from plain sight giving them some subjective value.

I like sushi too. :yum:

Well, Kripke sidesteps the issue of imaginary names such a Santa Claus. This is a glaring point in his philosophy.

sorry I don't understand. is that a negative addition? Whatever does it signify ? — Mr Phil O'Sophy

Its a philosophical attitude...

whollyrolling — Mr Phil O'Sophy

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An unmitigated mediator infuriates the super-ego and ID, no?

Sexual innuendos? Where! Where! — Bitter Crank

Buckets of warm "stuff" being dropped on me. I don't mind, though.

Well you know what happens to the innocent - they get crucified. — unenlightened

But, psychologizing myself. Isn't it true that if the ego is unwilling to mediate, those strange things start happening to it?

When me says there is no me, eyebrows rise. — unenlightened

It's the truth! I plead innocence! As I told you, there was a coup a Ribbentrop-Molotow as they say between the super-ego and ID, as the ego was unwilling to want to mediate between the two. What resulted was a coup-on my ego by them both.

As to what can and cannot be overcome, I agree with the general problems of snowflake generation, but I also have a deep belief in the autonomy of individuals and communities, and if a community wants to ban insults or wrap its members in psychological cotton wool, then that's their perogative. It's just not a community I'd spend a lot of time in. — Isaac

The question then becomes, who in the hell made it "your" role to advise other people on how they ought to live their lives? Isn't that the paradox of philosophy summed up as succinctly as I can? Isn't that the role of sophistry and not philosophy (as much as it would like to assume).

Says who? — unenlightened

Says me the wallower in chief.

Well Wallows, if I point out that your threads tend to be self-indulgent, (that means ego-indulgent,) and you are always wanting to be the centre of attention (which is incompatible with solipsism by the way), then I am, as usual, right. But my being right does not prevent you from taking offence. — unenlightened

My ego is non-existent. It has been eaten by my ID or super-ego, as the two were tired of its impotence.

I wish to figuratively dump a couple bucketloads of warm slop on you, in the event that your wallowing hole is cooling off. I don't want you to get a chill. — Bitter Crank

Sexual innuendos aside I slept well and wallowed contently in my bed. It was a healthy wallow, to say the least.

Square one is logic, reason, and evidence in pursuit of truth above persuasiveness. That's the authority it appeals to by definition (or at least under most philosophical roofs). — VagabondSpectre

Then, what's the difference between a good lawyer and a philosopher if I may phrase the question in such a manner?

How do you know even know such people exist if you lack the facilities to determine intent? — Isaac

So, intent can be discerned. I never said it can't; though it is quite hard on online forums as I described.

Hmm, I suppose some melatonin or warm milk might help.

It's 11 here, so I'm just wallowing until I fall asleep.

God's feet! I'll have to read that tomorrow.

Humor.

Remember that even a Stoic like Chrysippus died from laughter by seeing a donkey eating figs.

Humour is a good remedy for everything mundane and boring.

Oink!

Same person. Hope he is fine.

*In an unusual turn of events*

Sapentia isn't a bad guy. He just likes being in the center of attention, quite desperately so...

Some people use other people as a means to an end, and good people don't. Good people treat other people as important in of themselves. — Daniel Cox

Right. And, respect too.

My professor friend just installed a new thermostat for me, I helped a little bit. He always makes me feel better about myself. It's the easiest thing in the world imo to know another's intent, the problem I have is letting go of negative people. — Daniel Cox

Negative and toxic people. Yup, that's the (perceived) population of the internet. Well, it depends on where you spend your time on the webs, that is.

It's like a train wreck, i just have to keep attending. The fault of negative people in my life is all mine. — Daniel Cox

When in doubt scream and shout?

Wishing you the very best! What a great post! — Daniel Cox

Thank-you and you too.

Winnie the Pooh, Piglet, and Eeyore all are habitual wallowers. Eeyore made $40 million last year. Owns an island in the Caribbean. :nerd: — 0 thru 9

Oh, Eeyore. My dear companion and friend. As well as neurotic and anxious Piglet.

About the topic... I think one can kind of “read between the lines” to suss out some kind of intention. It’s my feeling that people really want to be understood, even when they are being sneaky or something. Especially in our current culture, where it seems one has to scream or be on fire to even be noticed for a moment. Subtlety is not in the top 40 list of prized virtues at the moment. — 0 thru 9

Yes, I hear you. *Said in Piglet's voice*

People are saying things in an attempt to persuade the other to change their positions (moral suasion), right? (the intent of persuasion itself matters to us as individuals). — VagabondSpectre

Yeah, rhetoric, and all that jazz.

While this is true to us as individuals with the subjective opinion that we are more correct than others, philosophy has demanding standards about the method of persuasion it prefers to use. — VagabondSpectre

There's a whole world of sophistry out there whose only utility is that it is highly persuasive, and people appeal to them every day (more and more in the quick-rhetoric-slinging world of online media). — VagabondSpectre

But as philosophers, we're supposed to recognize them as fallacious appeals and seek more reliable arguments and conclusions. — VagabondSpectre

That's all true; but, we're at square one. Meaning, that some appeal to authority is required, which in my opinion goes against the very ethos of philosophy. And they call economics the dismal science.

In theory it is more important that we are correct than it is important we are persuasive, but neither is useful without the other. — VagabondSpectre

How do you present either of those traits in a post-modern, hyper-normalized world?

The world could use some mindful wallowing. Maybe other names were used for it. Lao Tsu did it. Henry David Thoreau. Emily Dickenson. John Lennon and Yoko bedding for peace. Moses wallowed in the desert for years. Probably all the well known philosophers. — 0 thru 9

Oh dear. I'm just a pig, so what do I know? *Goes back to eating some mushrooms*

Crickets....

Lol, JK. I'm getting my popcorn ready on the off-chance that forum members aren't tired of this conversation yet. — NKBJ

I mean, you'd think that most men were violent criminals in Australia or that the police are all eating donuts and stuff and sleeping on the job to let these rapists get away, whom then compose the vast majority of men, who are rapists, who get away like ya feel me? I don't even know how to engage with such stuff so I'll butt out.

I would say that intent is actually irrelevant entirely. — VagabondSpectre

This is hard to fathom. I mean, if we were just talking in formal languages, then your statement and the rest would follow. But, having spent time here and seeing that conversations are actually about (well actually mostly about to put it lightly) normative matters, then intentionality is of great importance.

Not sure if that made sense or not.

Usually the way I respond to annoying ones is by talking to myself what i feel like saying. Then just type “lol” or something pacifying. — 0 thru 9

How about some healthy wallowing? Yes, I am becoming evangelical.

But darn... the obnoxious things always grab the attention. Like loud radio ads. If it bleeds, it leads, as the saying goes. — 0 thru 9

Just turn off the TV. I haven't watched TV in a long time.

Perhaps some people (myself on past occasions) get a type of high or adrenaline rush from confrontational posts. — 0 thru 9

Yes, that can be true.

What makes you tick?

And it will allow the people of Australia to break free from the ways of violent criminals and create a wiser and nobler culture. — Ilya B Shambat

So, is it violent criminals we're stereotyping or the vast majority of Australian men. This thread is going to blow up...

China is an awesome place. If I ever get out of poverty it's pretty high on my bucket list of places to visit or dare I say live there.

I make spare change dealing on Alibaba for synthesizing stuff there and making a sum on selling it in the States. Absolutely every person you deal with on Alibaba are nice and pleasing people. My views of the Chinese is based on Alibaba, so I might be confused or biased.

Well, I'm just concerned. I hope the best for S.

I am a pig.

We pigs wallow to cool off and clean ourselves from pests.

Therefore I see no point in criticizing our healthy habits and practices.

what is really going on here. So much love, so much ethos, it's really mind blowing, I must say! :) — Pussycat

A delicacy!

Wallowing ensues.