it is fallacious of me to dismiss the anti-individualist argument because of the company they keep — NOS4A2

One cannot force these conditions on an individual and then claim one is entitled to their coorperation. — Tzeentch

Do atheists actively not want God to exist? — Georgios Bakalis

So your complaints are never about a fault in the idea of individualism, rather about the faults of the idea of authoritarianism. — Harry Hindu

The whole point of individualism is realizing that you are not the only individual, else you cease being pro-individual and begin being authoritarian. — Harry Hindu

using government as a tool to contiunously attempt to expand individual rights is a self-defeating ideal. — Tzeentch

You need to move beyond putting other people down. — synthesis

Like him or not, the guy defied all odds and went from being a game show host to POTUS. If you don't understand what an incredible accomplishment that is (regardless of your opinion of him), then you need to re-evaluate some things. — synthesis

As I have told you before, Trump is who he is, but you think he is a loser? Well, let's compare your resume to his. What have you accomplished in this life? — synthesis

Power hungry individuals are, sadly, everywhere. And by not giving them strong states to hold power over... — Tzeentch

Do you have statistics that suggest otherwise? — synthesis

Why do you think these people are so successful? Luck? — synthesis

Is that why the most successful groups in the U.S. are people of color...Asians. They are successful because they work their asses off. — synthesis

You mean like Somalia? — James Riley

The principle at play here, is that the moral and physical impositions of the collective undermine the interests of the individual. — Tzeentch

We recognize that as injustice, especially when the injustice is magnified by one's own moral framework. Can you recognize it too when one's own moral framework is what hides it? — Tzeentch

That essence, in India, has been called atma, the soul.

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... the whole society depends on personality, the state, the church, organizations, the establishment are all lies. — Anand-Haqq

In your scenario the culprit is Islamic fundamentalism.
— praxis

I don't think so. Islamic fundamentalism is an idea. — Tzeentch

Well I can only hope your love for family trumps your love for Trump and laissez-faire (fuck the working class) capitalism. Other than that, if I recall correctly, you claim to be a godless expatriate so no loyalties there.

I don't mind the concept of laissez-faire because it implies the state keeping their hands off of private affairs. But when corporations seek favor from state power my defense ends. — NOS4A2

Would you like a mathematical proof? — synthesis

From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs — synthesis

In reality both Marx and Engels eschewed the entire concept of equality as an abstract and idealistic bourgeois aspiration, focusing their analysis on more concrete issues such as the laws of motion of capitalism and exploitation based on economic and materialist logic. Marx renounced theorizing on moral concepts and refrained from advocating principles of justice. Marx's views on equality were informed by his analysis of the development of the productive forces in society. — Wiki

the extinction of these noble friends of man? — god must be atheist

Is there any perspective, other than dog-eat-dog competition (essentially "might makes right"), for which these moral intuitions or social norms, in the example we discussed, would not be considered invalid? — Tzeentch

If the left desires equality of outcome and you're against it that means that you desire inequality of outcome.
— praxis
Equality of outcome is a lack of diversity. You can't have both equality and diversity. To achieve equality of outcomes, we'd all have to be genetically engineered and raised by the State. — Harry Hindu

Why Dharma is Different?

Dharma, however is different. It is different because it unites. There can never be divisions in dharma. Every interpretation is valid and welcome. No authority is too great to be questioned, too sacred to be touched. Unlimited interpretative freedom through free will is the quintessence of Dharma, for Dharma is as limitless as truth itself. No one can ever be its sole mouthpiece.

Presumably she was enslaved against her will and in order to provide some value to the enslavers. Your scenario didn’t touch on betrayal.
— praxis

You mentioned freeloaders and traitors, and I thought you were going somewhere with that. — Tzeentch

we seem to agree the individual's dependency is not a sufficient basis for collectivism — Tzeentch

Sounds about right. Personally I find little affiliation with many of those groups but I am nonetheless concerned with how each member is treated by them. — NOS4A2

"individual" is an abstraction, yes, but it fits on all human beings. Individualism is concern with human affairs, sure, but it does not prohibit concern for other beings. — NOS4A2

Life is one shit after the next.. — synthesis