A brief update on this topic.

I've found another interesting point of view from Irwin C. Lieb: Past, Present, and Future,
A Philosophical Essay

The past consists of what was becoming definite in a present; it became fully definite in being past. The past consists of what is fully actual. While individuals are present they are becoming definite and actual, and the completion of that process is their being past. Individuals are transformed when they become past, and the most prominent change in them is that their singularity is lost. In the present, individuals are singular and extended; they resist and oppose one another. They are spatial and outside one another. None of these features becomes past. What becomes past is the definiteness the individuals have achieved from inside themselves, and the definiteness of each individual is joined with the definiteness of all the other individuals that were their contemporaries. Together, they are the achieved definiteness of a moment of the entire world, joined to the past to which they have conformed. There is one whole past. There is no space in it and it has no length; duration and spatiality are only in a present time. [p.126] :100: :sparkle:

They feel time, but it is different from visual or audible perceptions.
It is kind of intuition, or feeling rather than sensory perception.

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Ok. Thank you Rocco, I have learned something new today.

Regards,

Javi.

I wonder what I did that caused you to ask that question? — Rocco Rosano

The structure of the text that you have used remembers me from an AI program.
Exactly, this part: ※→ javi2541997, Constance, et al,
What does it mean?

Thank you. Appreciated it! :heart:

I am agree with you. Past is one of the main reasons of what is happening in our present.

I also read public documents from the 1970's to not forget what happened back in the past.

It deserves to be considered for. But not so deeply because you cannot modify what happened previously...

Can we ourself look at our past? — Hillary

It is not even worthy at all. Which happened back in the day remains in the past. We cannot change it neither fix it. We only can learn thanks to the experience

Don't feed the incel. — RogueAI

:death:

My incel heart is full of love. I can definitely give you some, but only if you let me. — ithinkthereforeidontgiveaf

:eyes: oh boy

We're alive but we're obsessed by death! Memento mori but don't forget memento vivere! — Agent Smith

Good one! :fire: :100:
Another one: Tempus fugit! The life is short and time flies so fast.

There's a thin line betwixt panic and excitement, oui? — Agent Smith

Exactly! Si! I would feel excitement whenever I pass an important exam (or I pursue the ability to travel through the time!) But panic comes with fear and it can be caused by an earthquake or other natural disaster

There's this paradox in mathematics called the Interesting Number Paradox. Have a read, if you like — Agent Smith

Thanks! :up:

No births/deaths of the movers & shakers of our planet, no disasters, no wars, nada, zilch, nothing! — Agent Smith

Well if that is the criteria... I wish we could have more boring days as 11 April 1954 :rofl:

If what's involved is going through mountains of data, a computer (AI) is the right person for the job. — Agent Smith

Indeed. But that data was implemented by us. So we are the guilty fellows here :chin: some programmers put a lot of information in the AI but we are ones who put the subjective portion.
I wish we could know what happened that day and then conclude if it was a real boring day or not!

Could there be a way of witnessing that would not disturb the physical setting at a particular instant? Since there appears to be time symmetry at the quantum level this might not be a problem. — jgill

So interesting argument indeed. :up:
Related to your question and opinion, the article I have shared previously, says:

Every instance of time travel generating an infinite number of alternative universes might be thought to violate Ockham's Razor, especially since the idea that an alternative universe could be generated in the first place has disturbing consequences for the metaphysics of identity. Simplicity and common sense rebel against such principles -- although serious versions of such metaphysics have been produced to deal with quantum mechanics, and multiple real universes were proposed by the philosopher David Lewis to explain possibility and necessity (after Saul Kripke used Leibniz's idea of "possible universes" to produce a quantified version of modal logic.

An AI made that judgment. I'm dying to know what its criteria for interesting/exciting were. — Agent Smith

Oh boy the AI again... they are always surprising me. What would be the next? The most philosophical day ever?

11 April 1954!

I did quick research and I found out what happened that day all over the world. Here is a brief examples:

Was April 11, 1954 the Most Boring Day in History? :chin:

Hello and welcome to this forum. I have enjoyed reading your OP. Very well structured and written. Thanks for sharing it. To be honest, I do not how to answer in order to start a debate with you but I would like to share a brief personal note:

Why may they want to lie to us? — Virus Collector

Because they know is necessary. I want to put the question backwards: Are we ready to live on the truth?

Are you an AI philosophical program or what?

Step 1: Epistemology
Step 2: Logic
Step 3: Metaphysics
Step 4: Aesthetics.
Step 5: Ethics.

And finally, anyone who thinks men can enslave women should start this enslavement from their own mothers. I think the vast majority of men don't have any intension or desire of enslaving their own mothers, if they are alive. — ssu

Nobody wants to enslave their own mothers (I guess sisters neither) but those mothers are already "enslaved" by their husbands, thus, the fathers of these men. So this is the main paradox of the issue which creates a vicious circle: husband enslaves their wife and have a boy. This boy would never want to enslave their mother but he will end up marrying with a woman who would want to enslave and so on...

Btw here it is Mother's Day, so greetings to all mothers! — ssu

Greetings to your mummy! Here the Mother's day is on the first Sunday of may.

A has to be false. — Hillary

Well I still don’t understand it

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This begins to sound like the Liar paradox, where, if a sentence is true, it's false, and, if it is false, it's true
A very similar paradox, allowed by the possibility of the same kind of temporal loop, can become a reductio ad absurdum for time travel

Ah, paintings, or art about time? — Hillary

Both.

it is hard to bring a lovely conclusion out of this. — ithinkthereforeidontgiveaf

It is hard because we live separately and it will be so because it looks like we are different just for nature facts

No, I mean the opposite. I say that time could be a good motivation to create art. I am not referring about Ancient Greeks but all the ages. For example: a painting about an autumn afternoon because it makes you feel nostalgic

What do you exactly mean? — ithinkthereforeidontgiveaf

I mean, politician’s speeches tend to be vacuous. We all know that they use some words just to gain some votes but we do not really know if they really believe on it. They are just words. It could have some impact among the voters but if they do not reach the main goals, the citizens would not longer believe on their principles.
So, in this vicious context, someone would ask: What does feminism stands for? How worthy is it?

[Just to clarify what I said previously]

When I typed: we walk through time, I guess it sounded pretty poetic. As Virgil stated: tempus fugit. What I wanted to share is that time is very important, or at least influential, to humans when they do so artistic works. Since a paint to write a poem

Is the most coherent conclusion that we have to just "Live at war" indefinitely? — ithinkthereforeidontgiveaf

I think not but, at the same time, men and women tend to be pretty separated from each other. We are clearly different. This is not necessarily to makes us be on war all the time. I just want to say that we are more different that we even used to.
Another problem: politicians use this complot to reach votes. Ergo, it is a topic that in the future would lose some credibility among the society

His argument cogito ergo sum was just that in his French eyes. — Agent Smith

:lol: :death:

A hasta be false. — Agent Smith

What!?



So (if I understand it well) you want to make a new project of applying cogito ergo sum in a new scenario: the objects themselves which can hold some truths

Yes, I understand your argument and it is very well defended. I guess procreation could be the main fact of why women tend to be protected along the history

Evolution itself is not intelligent — ithinkthereforeidontgiveaf

Do you really think so? Evolution could be very intelligent itself. This is why (with along all circumstances) the humankind has survived against all chaotic circumstances.

We can explain it in different manners. But time has an impact on us. Wether we are the ones who walk through it or it is the time which does so.
It is not the same when you are only 5 years old, or 25 or 65...
Time makes an impact in our life

What has happened has happened. What has not happened, has not happened. There is no reversing it or going back.

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You are right :up: I guess we should see time as pure forwarded pathway to walk through. Past is just some experiences we have lived and learned about

To be honest with you... I wish one day I end up dying as Mishima (三島 由紀夫). His death and suicide was perfect and aesthetic. I don't know how to express myself but I have the same thought and feeling like him

Me

Agreed. I wish I can reach your intelligence

The American calling Japan a dictatorship :rofl:
YOUR COUNTRY IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE HISTORY WHICH USED NUKE WEAPONS
so do not speak about others states...

Smh... You will never understand me...

Danger Danger! Who will then decide who has the right to speak? — universeness

The mods of this forum, supposedly...