To clarify, here, with "self" or "you", I don't mean some identification based on afiliation or proximity (like considering different clones of you being "you"), but the subjective point of view what constitutes your consciousness. Assuming that it is the same moment to moment, will it be the same day to day despite the gap at sleep? From a physical point of view some atoms are different, but this happens when you are awake too, your body has changed in the last 5 hours.When you wake up are you the same person as yesterday? First, I need to ask, is this a factual question? It's not clear to me that it is.
We have very different ways of thinking about the self and consciousness which need not fall under the "materialism" of science, which is a misleading term, I think
The following is based on a model that just makes sense to me. For discussion purposes I'll make a distinction between "physical" continuity and "identity" continuity. By analogy, suppose I just plant an acorn and it grows up to be a tree. Then there's a thing I mean to be describing by claiming that the acorn grew up to be a tree... that thing is physical continuity. Factually speaking, acorns can become trees; they don't for example become tigers. Were I to plant an acorn, I should not be horribly surprised if it didn't sprout. Neither should I be surprised if it grew up to be a tree. But I should be horribly shocked if it sprouted to become a tiger, because that just doesn't happen. So we might speculate about the nature of time, what change means, and what physical continuity means, and there are good questions there to ponder for all of these, but we shouldn't forget that whatever answers we come up with, acorns can grow into trees. However we account for that would be an example of physical continuity.Do you exist more than a moment? Are you a different person every day? Will your subjective experience continue after your death? What are the theories of mind that match with Closed Individualism? — Philosophuser
Per the above model, there is an identity staring out of the undestroyed Terran body's eyes, and there is a distinct identity staring out of the Martian replica's eyes. But both identities have equal claims to being the guy who was standing in line for the teleporter five minutes before entering. This relies more on the identity continuity model above than any particular view of time; one can easily believe time to be an illusion, but so long as you can account for the apparent illusion (e.g., that the physical structure of the block is such that traces through time-like directions within this sliver of the universe follow causation-like rules), the entire model of identity can fit into that account.This is often discussed with the Teleporter Paradox: if a machine scan your body, destroy it and create an exact replica with other atoms in Mars, is he you, or another person? — Philosophuser
Well to be more precise... the atoms are just a substrate... as you noted, the body's eventually replaced like a Ship of Theseus. The most we can say under a materialist premise is that the pattern of atoms implement points of view. After death, there presumably being neither a point of view nor a conscious mind that could remember being a person, there would be no sense in which you could say there's an identity or continuation of one.After your death, since all of your experiences are just based on atoms, — Philosophuser
...hopefully this model explains such a theory. The consciousness being a particular one is related to it having a particular point of view; and it's being "the same" is related to its ability to remember having one.Perhaps, if consciousness emerge from some particular arrangement of atoms, the brain as a whole is conscious and his activity just make it feel one way or another, allowing you to have always the same consciousness all your life, because what matters is the sistem as a whole. What are the theories about the consciousness that allow you being always the "same", and stop feeling at death? — Philosophuser
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