They use the term "people of color" a lot in the news over the last few years, but usually it is in the context of African-Americans. What makes the terms "people of color" different from "colored people" which is more derogatory? And isn't using a racial term that so directly emphasizes skin color a particularly divisive category? I'm a white guy and it just seems a bit offensive to call one or two groups of people "people of color" when all along I never thought of myself as albino. Aren't we all "people of color?" — TiredThinker
Aren't we all "people of color?" — TiredThinker
Though I've used the term, somewhat carelessly slipping into news speak from time to time, so to speak, I prefer Non-Whites or Non-White folks / citizens / communities (in the North American context). Otherwise, Out-group persons / communities is more generic and precise (re: e.g. Tutsis, Uighurs, Kurds, Israeli Sephardim, Chechins, etc ... in their respective national contexts.)What makes the terms "people of color" different from "colored people" which is more derogatory? — TiredThinker
In order to effectively fight your enemy you must name him (re: White Nationalists) and thereby rename yourself in contrast (re: Non-White Citizens et al). Problematic, no doubt, yet indispensable for strategic thinking in liberation-social justice struggles. — 180 Proof
What I am against is the idea that any skin color recognition is inherently racist and needs to be censored. — simeonz
People in developed nations want to keep their standards from being floored, which I can understand. The solution would require intricate maneuvers, because investment and labor markets are inherently adversarial. The issue will worsen with the advent of technological automation and there is another thread for this topic on the forum. But the EU states are experiencing political crisis on their own at the moment, and the overall global political situation is a fiasco, so it is unlikely to happen.As EU citizen it hurts me to see the huge differences between our different nations. I do believe in Europe and the future of the EU. But in its current form it isn't really successful it seems. Perhaps in the future I want to move to Brussels, to see if I can make a political change there. Some people in North Western Europe actually do care about more than their own happiness — TaySan
The designation can be attached to many other notions implicitly present in the context. The color designation can allude to whatever statistical correlations between ethnicity and living background are involved for the purposes of the discussion. Such as in my example, when talking about the access to and benefit from education, connection might be implied to the social strata, the culture (or mirco-culture) of upbringing, even the early exposure to crime of the individual. But there is nothing inherently wrong with recognizing the color of the skin, or those correlations, as long as it not weaponized to diminish someone. I think that considering all skin tones as non-white is just an excuse to censor the mention of skin color and sidesteps how we use such terminology in practice. If I say that someone has bright eyes, I don't mean a particular CIE colorspace lightness that we use to specify all "bright colors". It is a comparative term.Skin color is only one tiny factor here, in classifying people between 'white' and 'black'. Otherwise most people on earth would be classified 'grey' or 'in-between' or something like that. — Olivier5
But there is nothing inherently wrong with recognizing the color of the skin, or those correlations, as long as it not weaponized to diminish someone. — simeonz
So you and your community are oppressed by a state and business apparatus controlled by Whites? — 180 Proof
Where I live, the state and business apparatus is controlled by Italians, who I suppose are white, most of them in government anyway. Many Italians are casually racist (including between themselves, ie regional sentiments are strong) but the level of racial hatred is not as high as in the US. There isn't much history in terms of ideological racism in Italy; it's not engrained in politics like it is in many other places. Even Mussolini was not much of a racist. — Olivier5
Northern Italians dislike Southern Italians, Southern Italians look down upon those Italians further south, and all look down upon Sicilians. — Ciceronianus the White
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