However if you accept the theistic claims made by people who argue from personal experience — Tom Storm
Yet both religious apologists as well as their a(nti)religious counterparts tend to dismiss this approach, arguing that "compelling reasons by one's own standards" aren't good enough.I (or anyone else) can argue compelling reasons not on his list because they have to be compelling to me and by my standards. If he failed to find them he failed to find them is all that can be said. The fact of his good evidence argument or standard does not itself justify or recommend the conclusion he reaches for anyone else. — Pantagruel
This is not a stance generally held by philosophers or scientists.I guess my point is, people justify their beliefs by their commitment to them, ultimately. — Pantagruel
no good reasons for believing — Pantagruel
I guess my point is, people justify their beliefs by their commitment to them, ultimately.
— Pantagruel
This is not a stance generally held by philosophers or scientists. — baker
Nor do religious people or culture at large. Instead, they maintain that people must have some objective, interpersonally verifiable or agreed upon reasons for believing something, in order for those reasons to count as "good reasons". — baker
What would be good reasons to believe in god? The way atheists oppose belief in the divine, ignoring multiple arguments from the theist camp, I'm left with the impression that nothing less than an one-to-one meeting with god, complete with physical contact and maybe an exchange of words, will suffice as proof of god. This kind of "close encounter of the third kind" proof I call direct evidence of the divine. — TheMadFool
I submit, if it is believed possible for humans to create consciousness, why should it be any less possible for human consciousness to be created? — Pantagruel
This element is what attracts me to Spinoza. Instead of introducing "God" as something that hurts our brains to even bring up, it is the first thing you think of when reflecting upon your own conscious existence. Aristotle said he didn't know much but that he was pretty sure he didn't dream all this up for himself. — Valentinus
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