Then at those times not good, and thus not omni-good. — tim wood
If God can commit suicide, then all good can leave reality — Gregory
so who am I to disagree? — Apollodorus
But we can use our intuitions about what it is good for us to do to gain insight into why God allows the immorality, ignorance and suffering gs of the world — Bartricks
Great! An endorser. Can you resolve the paradoxical nature of Bartricks's explanations? — tim wood
There is nothing paradoxical in anything I have said. It is straightforward. It's just bewildering you, — Bartricks
My own view/understanding of god is as an idea. And the only limitation on idea, or ideas that are any good, is that they be not self-contradictory. Seems to me a small requirement. — tim wood
But it is an interesting idea that can inspire people to think and do good things. — Apollodorus
Plus, what else is there? — Apollodorus
The whole point of having a mind is to create and contemplate ideas and to manifest our freedom of thought. — Apollodorus
Your God sounds like that God. — Gregory
Your God demands complete non-freedom in submission because your are islamic in your understanding and want a unbeatable super-figure to justify and restrain yourself — Gregory
Of course in philosophical terms God is an idea. But it is an interesting idea that can inspire people to think and do good things. Plus, what else is there? What good would it do to contemplate a vacuous sky or a picture of Karl Marx? Rather boring an uninspiring, don't you think? The whole point of having a mind is to create and contemplate ideas and to manifest our freedom of thought. The role of philosophy is to stimulate thought not to suppress it. — Apollodorus
Psychoanalysis would simply view your arguments as a confidence in yourself — Gregory
Philosophy! — Gregory
Historically many philosophers who are considered great have been monotheistic and their philosophy geared towards a hierarchy with God at the top. Plato,aristotle,descartes,Berkley,kant,newton,and others.
How do you view this?
Where these guys deficient in their logic or where they on to something? — Trinidad
I accept that as a possibility. — tim wood
Psychoanalysis would simply view your arguments as a confidence in yourself. Are you Islamic or subscribe to no religion? — Gregory
Socrates was an atheist. — god must be atheist
↪Gregory No. Why would I do that?
Your God sounds like that God.
— Gregory
It's not 'my' God. It's God. — Bartricks
So, is your argument that we should have no self-confidence and that if we do we are "Islamic"? Would you mind expanding on the logic of that? — Apollodorus
are shit-eating gentlemen full of self-confidence. — god must be atheist
Waitta second. You guys are talking about dougs. Diffenent subject — god must be atheist
Of the moderns, Lucas, Strentenholz, Beckermeier, Gerd Muller, Kocsis Tibor, Puskas Ocsi, and many others don't believe in god. — god must be atheist
Your argument, my friend, reeks of the fallacy of "appeal to authority". In other words, no. — god must be atheist
Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, never believed in gods. Sartre and Camus did not believe in gods. Russell forumated the reason why not to believe in gods, or to believe. — god must be atheist
I have a God too. I take it out for walkies three times a day. It loves the walkies. It shits all over the place, and I collect its leftovers in a plastic bag. — god must be atheist
And there is a further difficulty, raised but not on every occasion. We may suppose that god is a-temporal. He does not do this and then that, but rather that everything is in some sense always already done. Either that or he is temporal, and is at all times doing and being good. However it goes, it's messy, and the mess due, imo, to the omni- and the paradoxes it generates. — tim wood
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