Everything in the mind is a concept; this includes our understanding of non-existence. Yet it feels to us that what we think of when we observe in our minds the concept of non-existence somehow accurately reflects what non-existence is in actuality, but where is the evidence for this? — intrapersona
In other words, for most of society as naive realists or materialists it feels intuitive to think that when you die there is nothing (probably inferred from self-awareness stopping during sleep), but "nothing" is just a concept in the mind. YOU nor any man have any guarantee that you know what nothing means, nor what infinity actually is. Why then are people so sure that their conceptions reflect true states of affairs in the external world accurately? It is clear that these concepts transcend the limits of our feeble human minds and yet we act and think as if we have an absolute true comprehension of what they are and how they exist (probably because it is too difficult for us to think otherwise). — intrapersona
Likewise, everything in this world is merely a construct of our comprehension and we act as if we are windows for the truth even though it is only a circular self-affirming impression that we attain from putting together our sensory worlds. — intrapersona
In other words, for most of society as naive realists or materialists it feels intuitive to think that when you die there is nothing — intrapersona
Actually, I think that the concept of "nothing" is probably the most accurate concept we have. Nothing is easy to imagine. It's simply a complete absence of everything. You seem to be confusing the concept (or mental model) of nothing, which is something, with an objective nothing. There is no confusing what nothing is. There is no skewing the concept of nothing. If you think of a total absence of everything, including time, then you have successfully thought of and modeled nothingness in your mind.Everything in the mind is a concept; this includes our understanding of non-existence. Yet it feels to us that what we think of when we observe in our minds the concept of non-existence somehow accurately reflects what non-existence is in actuality, but where is the evidence for this?
In other words, for most of society as naive realists or materialists it feels intuitive to think that when you die there is nothing (probably inferred from self-awareness stopping during sleep), but "nothing" is just a concept in the mind. YOU nor any man have any guarantee that you know what nothing means, nor what infinity actually is. — intrapersona
So for a lot of people it's like - let's not go there. I'd rather not think about that. — Wayfarer
Like, what is the Darwinian explanation for musical prodigy? Or prodigy of any kind? (Oh, I know - 'makes more kids'. Like, spin me another one.) — Wayfarer
Like, what is the Darwinian explanation for musical prodigy? Or prodigy of any kind? (Oh, I know - 'makes more kids'. Like, spin me another one.)
— Wayfarer
What alternative explanations are there? Are you suggesting reincarnation? — TheMadFool
Reincarnation is a bad word. But I think there has to be some kind of means by which cultural and other forms of knowledge are transmitted, and I don't think science really understand what it is. It might be something like what was suggested by Plato's anamnesis. This was widely believed, early in Western history, but the Church forbade the 'monstrous doctrine of the pre-existence of souls' in about the 4th Century a.d. — Wayfarer
Perhaps Plato's idea of anamnesis could be consistent with an eternal life. — John
Karma makes no sense to me without assuming God and Divine Justice either. — John
Karma makes no sense to me without assuming God and Divine Justice either. Without God it just seems to be an amplified naive notion of deterministic causation. — John
For me reincarnation on the physical plane makes no sense without the idea of an immortal soul and its relationship to God, at least. — John
The feeling that there is a self, a me or mine, that has to be saved, is exactly what has to be lost. That is what the crucifiction represents, complete self-giving. Then there is nobody left to save! — Wayfarer
I suspect understanding of concepts like nothing, infinity, god, what is before and after life lie deep in our mind, not in our brain. — Ashwin Poonawala
The body and the mind are simply the 'vessel' to carry our soul in, as it exists in the reality you see and interact in around you. After your body and mind cease living, your soul continues on, in another form of energy, which is not always visible to those still living.For the question was presented, what happens to the body, mind and soul after death ? — ElicitToxicity
So Christians think there is a soul that will be saved, but in reality Christians are saved by giving themselves entirely. That is why it is said 'he that saves his life will loose it. He that looses his life for my sake will be saved'. — Wayfarer
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