Just a little bit. — Banno
Is the animal's world inside language? Is even the human world entirely within the bounds of language? If so, how does that work? — Janus
Just on time as to get out the idea, that was starting to shape in my mind, of you being stubborn. — dimosthenis9
You think he proposes to just let them pass? — dimosthenis9
Stubbornness is a virtue cultivated by having to explain things repeatedly. — Banno
Again, if you want to understand Wittgenstein, or any other philosopher of worth, you needsmust expend some effort. — Banno
That's much the topic here: The content of beliefs is propositional"
For the purposes of exegesis, keep in mind Tractatus 1: The world is everything that is the case.
Comparing eggs and oranges is fraught. — Banno
Noted. — Cheshire
In fairness if I was claiming to possess important insight that defies summary I'd be laughed out of the room. — Cheshire
It appears as if some one thought they could be vague enough they would overcome the unattended baggage sold with a lexicon, but instead of realizing this wasn't the case; it was concluded that things can't be communicated. — Cheshire
Precisely what I needed to understand. Thanks.This does not make us unable to talk about the rest, just that the discussion doesn't meet his standards. — Antony Nickles
I think this is the source of dissonance at least in my experience. I'll gladly adopt a new frame of reference to kick around an idea. But, if I'm listening for the idea and just getting my bearings crossed...complaints aside. It makes sense now, appreciated.Sometimes philosophy is about changing your mind, not about knowledge, but, thinking in an entirely different way--that's hard to tell someone to do, or get there by just saying things that are right. — Antony Nickles
ad hominem insinuations — Janus
is one on which I have written much, most of it in response to @creativesoul. I've not the time nor inclination to revitalise that deceased, maltreated equine. Hence my redirecting him to the debate.Is the animal's world inside language? Is even the human world entirely within the bounds of language? If so, how does that work? — Janus
I asked for personal opinions and views, not suggestions what book should I read, @Banno. More specifically, at the end of the description of the topic I asked: "I would really like to hear your opinion on all this".Wittgenstein wrote a book called the Tractatus. — Banno
... So can a silent magician! :smile:An orator can touch the hearts of a hundred thousand people with one speech. — TheMadFool
That's OK, @Cheshire.I might very well be off the trail at this point. Thanks for the response. — Cheshire
... So can a silent magician! :smile:
... So could Charlie Chaplin in the era of silent movies! :smile: — Alkis Piskas
No, I was certainly not confused about Wittgenstein's quote. If I was confused about something, this was with your overall response. Which is evident, since ended with questions ...
And I didn't get "brighter" with your new response.
It's not a big deal, though. Let's pass over it, shall we? — Alkis Piskas
I asked for people their opinion and views, not a suggestion on what book should I read — Alkis Piskas
No, I was certainly not confused about Wittgenstein's quote. I — Alkis Piskas
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