It looks as if the person has to measure how bad life is vs. how good it feels (or actually does) helping another person out. — Manuel

How could one ever hope to measure such an issue without too much bias? Hmm? :chin:

You can't get out of your skin to a neutral perspective free of bias. In other words, we are irredeemably biased beings.

If the pain is too strong for that person, helping others won't be a consideration. If it's intermittent or less severe, then they can consider the benefits of helping others.

What kind of political agenda? — Shawn

It’s made on another persons behalf. The reasons people use for why it’s justified to create suffering. Anything other than the child will suffer is the political reason as suffering is what matters . Happiness, growth, or any other X reason is neutral or non moral consideration. Even seeing someone who will be virtuous is overlooking that child for an agenda (to see virtue being carried out by your offspring). It’s all “in spite of suffering I want to see this carried out”. It’s the in spite of I have a problem with.