But lets say there were two identical twins in two separate near identical universes (so they don't affect one another). But one suffers a car crash and the other doesn't. Lets assume no other major entropy afterwards. One lives a life of pain and disability and the other doesn't. Certainly not fair nor deserved? Or lets say the disabled one does have additional changes? Loss of income, ends up in a more dangerous neighborhood to afford a place, maybe loses friends that were connected by more active lifestyle? Also undeserving? Can deserving only be assessed by the divine? — TiredThinker
that does not matter. — James Riley
I know you don't, but that does not matter. — James Riley
Well we aren't Gods. We barely have the capacity to consider human predicaments let alone all life. — TiredThinker
I consider the deserving of the suffering of one and the lack of suffering of the other. — TiredThinker
Yeah, but the fact of the matter is that "the red pill" simply shows that choosing is illusory. "There is no spoon." :wink:The red pill and the blue pill are both part of the same cinematic fiction. — unenlightened
This doesn't follow. Some fictions have value (i.e. higher-priority – more adaptive – utility than disutility), and which ones do belong to particular forms-of-life.If good and evil are fictions, then the truth has no value either.
If good and evil are fictions, then the truth has no value either.
This doesn't follow. Some fictions have value (i.e. higher-priority – more adaptive – utility than disutility), and which ones do belong to particular forms-of-life. — 180 Proof
Perhaps human animals are more needy than animal animals. — TiredThinker
Can we only assume fair or deserving exists objectively if our destiny is determined by a god? — TiredThinker
If our fortunes far differ that of an apparent equal, perhaps we can only assume things will equalize after life somehow? Or in non-Christian religions a karma judgement that somehow spans between lives? — TiredThinker
We always try to gauge what we deserve and what others deserve, but how is any such thing measured objectively? Do we deal in just more or less than one another or can we find real world measurable things to compare in reference to deservingness? We certainly live different lives and experience different outcomes, but can we ever really determine we deserve our lot in life? — TiredThinker
1. Luck. Basically inexplicable events that make you wanna ask "whatever did I do to deserve this?" The events in question maybe either good (winning the lottery) or bad (being laid off). — Agent Smith
in this life, (the one that begins with birth and ends with death) innocents are slaughtered and people get away with murder, occasionally. But this is a necessary feature of a moral world, that virtue is not rewarded and vice is not punished, otherwise the good life and the totally self-serving life would be the same, and even the devil would practice virtue. — unenlightened
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