I suggest you read more carefully. I did not say it did. But the post implies that any Muslim that is opposed to pornography and gay marriage supports terrorism.In no way did he say or imply that he was talking about all Muslims. — Thorongil
But the post implies that any Muslim that is opposed to pornography and gay marriage supports terrorism. — andrewk
This is the issue lurking behind a lot of Western anxiety about Islam. On the one hand, Westerners want Islam to adapt and assimilate, to “moderate” in some sense, to leave behind the lure of conquest, the pull of violent jihad.
But for several reasons — because we don’t understand Islam from the inside, but also because we’re divided about what our civilization stands for and where religious faith fits in — we have a hard time articulating what a “moderate” Muslim would actually believe, or what we expect a modernized Islam to become.
That is not what you said. You did not mention scripture. You asked whether gay-marriage-opposing Muslims would abandon their support for terrorism if the West abandoned support for gay marriage.It was a rhetorical question, not a policy proposal. It is along the lines: the West requires and expects that Muslims consider revising the aspects of their scripture that support holy war and killing of infidels so as to better conform to the requirements of a pluralistic, global culture - that they abandon the concept of 'religiously-sanctioned violence'. — Wayfarer
Personally, I do not think it would be reasonable. Firstly, I don't think it would work. I don't think those issues have much at all to do with the motivations of terrorists. — andrewk
I don't know what that fellow is on about, if what he says matches your paraphrase. I don't know anybody welcoming Islam with open arms, any more than they are welcoming Hinduism or capitalism with open arms when we admit refugees that have those characteristics. It is people, not beliefs, towards which we feel compassion.And that brings us to Ross Douthat's point about those who are willing to welcome Islam with open arms, but who won't contemplate the possibility that their values ought to be respected. Why? Because all values, or even the absence of values, are a matter of individual opinion. — Wayfarer
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