Thanks everyone for your thoughts — Troyster
I continuously think about these things and I just want to know other people's perspectives. If there is a chance to be relatively happy and cause minimal suffering in the world through living like a monk why would we not do it? Is it because temporary/materialistic pleasures (new cars, fancy computers, good food, sex) ARE NEEDED for some people's happiness? — Troyster
I did consider it when I studied Sōtō Zen for over a year as an undergrad but found 'meditative practice' was not for me.Basically- why would you not consider living like a buddhist monk? — Troyster
Except for "meditating", I've lived as simply, minimally, as I've been able to since the mid-1980s. Study of nature, art & history as well as contemplating (& discussing) aporia has been my praxis despite the noisy, frenetic grind of this hyper-commodified modernity. I prefer to live fully engaged in the world than (trying) to escape from the world into some safely cloistered straitjacket. Solitude complemented by solidarity in struggles for justice, learning and beauty, I believe, make us more whole, flourishing persons. Contra mystics or ascetics, freethinkers, absurdists & bluesmen have always been my teachers. My "happiness" is mostly Epicurean ... :death: :flower:So why would you not live your life meditating, only owning a few posessions, helping others and learning things for yourself (and for the benefit of everyone else) when this way of life seems to fulfill many of the needs for someone to live more happily?
You probably need to draw the line between what you call ascetic (monk living) and living with just the basic necessities, which many ordinary people are able to do. I have already mentioned my own experience in another thread, but I will repeat it again here. I lived the bare minimum when I stayed away from the city and the grind -- I was still wired, meaning connected to internet and phone. It was great. That is, if you don't have to worry about bills. So it is realistic to think of living happily (no anxiety and worries).I continuously think about these things and I just want to know other people's perspectives. If there is a chance to be relatively happy and cause minimal suffering in the world through living like a monk why would we not do it? Is it because temporary/materialistic pleasures (new cars, fancy computers, good food, sex) ARE NEEDED for some people's happiness? Are things like music and movies/stories/art needed for your happiness? If these things were not available in the world and everyone meditated, socialised, volunteered and lived simply all day, there would be MUCH less non-human and potentially human suffering AND we could still possibly attain happiness? — Troyster
higher happiness — Troyster
inner peace — Troyster
attain happiness — Troyster
their way of life which involves long periods of peaceful meditation, volunteering/ helping people in need and living a simplistic minimalistic lifestyle. — Troyster
I prefer to live fully engaged in the world than (trying) to escape from the world into some safely cloistered straitjacket — 180 Proof
Only "prisons" for those who misconstrue philosophy as justifying dogmas (but otherwise vast horizons wherein philosophy is construed as explicating (A) warranted doubts & (B) speculative inquiries / interpretations).gilded cages. — Agent Smith
when you can daydream about the role of the office secretary as the stern nurse — god must be atheist
Does she carry the whip? Sheer curiosity.... — EugeneW
mine is worse... she carries an enema bag. — god must be atheist
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