Only the very ignorant use wiki. — Jackson

Only the wilfully ignorant don't use Wikipedia. — Confucious

"The expression “the elephant in the room” is a metaphorical idiom in English for an important or enormous topic, question, or controversial issue that is obvious or that everyone knows about but no one mentions or wants to discuss because it makes at least some of them uncomfortable ..." Wikipedia

"The parable of the blind men and an elephant is a story that illustrates ontologic reasoning. It is a story of a group of blind men who have never come across an elephant before and who learn and imagine what the elephant is like by touching it. Each blind man feels a different part of the elephant's body, but only one part, such as the side or the tusk. They then describe the elephant based on their limited experience and their descriptions of the elephant are different from each other." Wikipedia.

The former is a metaphor of recent coinage, and the latter is an Indian parable. Aristotle has some stuff to say about elephants, but does not use it metaphorically or in a parable as it would not have been sufficiently familiar to his audience to make a vivid image. his information would have come mainly from Alexander's rampage to India.

Gosh, wiki.

Gosh, wiki. — Jackson

Snide comments are not an argument. Sources are cited at the bottom of Wikipedia. Feel free to post your own source about Aristotle, otherwise you've been shown to be mistaken.

Snide comments are not an argument — Philosophim

Irony noted.

Snide comments are not an argument
— Philosophim

Irony noted. — Jackson

Ignoring the rest of what I posted noted. Do not troll.

Ignoring the rest of what I posted noted. Do not troll. — Philosophim

Noting the irony.

Only the very ignorant use wiki. — Jackson

Wikipedia is a perfectly respectable source of information, I have contributed to it, and I donate monthly. Speaking of ‘ignorance’, did you manage to validate your spurious claim about Aristotle?

did you manage to validate your spurious claim about Aristotle? — Wayfarer

One does not validate spurious claims, one doubles down on them.

Wikipedia is a perfectly respectable source of information, I have contributed to it, and I donate monthly. Speaking of ‘ignorance’, did you manage to validate your spurious claim about Aristotle? — Wayfarer

We're most grateful! Complete strangers are payin' for my education! :heart:

Elephants in the Room: Stuff that are important but uncomfortable to talk about. Everybody avoids it (like a leper), but sooner or later the bomb will detonate - the shit hits the fan and then pandemonium (sounds fun, oui?).

Isn't there already an elephant in this particular room?

Isn't there already an elephant in this particular room? — Noble Dust

I dunno!

I would say that the fact that there is no elephant in the room is the elephant in the room[url=http://].https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/719436[/url]

Ladies and gentlemen: the elephant is no longer in the room.

Oh yeah babe, Jackson got banned.

The link doesn't work.

Oh yeah babe, Jackson got banned. — Noble Dust

My memory is in tatters!

Mine too. Not to worry.

Thought I said this but the link is boken

it was to jackson's banning

Ladies and gentlemen: the elephant is no longer in the room. — Wayfarer

:rofl: Elvis has left the building!

I believe Aristotle originated that phrase (don't remember where). — Jackson

In Ivan Andreyvich Krilov's 1814 epigrammatic story "The Inquisitive Man" a man visits a museum and notices all the creatures except the elephant. He told the story to make fun of people who miss the obvious.

Full text of Aristotle in translation can be found on Project Gutenberg. Lots about elephants.

Only the very ignorant use wiki. — Jackson

That's true. People who already possess knowledge do not need to seek it out. My local library houses an awful lot of untrustworthy rubbish. But that's not a reason to distrust every book in it.

The closest Aristotle came to elephants was vicariously, via his pupil Alexander the Great in Hindoostan!

Here's a nice story of how the elephant in the cave was mistaken for a one-eyed Giant - a cyclops.

https://www.earthdate.org/episodes/birth-of-a-monster