The simulation depends on ourselves! The imagination of humans is extraordinary — javi2541997
we could be simulating an older version of our world — Agent Smith
Interesting. That's would mean there are different time versions of our real world. Then, the "real" world (who is simulating others) is the only one who is living in the correct time. If we think it deeply, probably you and me would be 150 years old in other reality — javi2541997
Nostalgia is one reason why we would want to simulate an older version of The Matrix. — Agent Smith
↪Benj96 What difference would it make to our existence whether or not "we live in a simulation"? — 180 Proof
Zapffe & Camus call this "absurd". And Buddhists' say "ignorance" of anicca, etc aka "karma". Spinoza refers to it as an "inadequate idea". Etc.Perhaps in the sense that one seeks to transcend Samsara. — Pantagruel
It would have to be a pretty lousy simulation if the people in it were constantly pointing out they were in a simulation. Really, at that point it ceases to be a simulation and just is the context. So, any answer is that we simply live in our version of the real world — Cheshire
It would have to be a pretty lousy simulation if the people in it were constantly pointing out they were in a simulation. — Cheshire
The simulation hypothesis is fun for computer nerds to contemplate, perhaps because they see no personal consequences of the notion of artificial Reality. In Existential Physics, physicist Sabine Hossenfelder admitted, "I quite like the idea that we live in a computer simulation. It gives me hope that things will be better on the next level." (heaven?) But that hope seems to be based on faith in the good intentions of the unknown programmers. She goes on to note that, "this simulation hypothesis . . . has been mostly ignored by physicists, but it enjoys a certain popularity among philosophers and people who like to think of themselves as intellectual. Evidently, it's more appealing the less you know about physics".What was taken for real (out there, distinct and separate from us) is being questioned; it could all be a hallucination (in our heads). As for considering the world tentatively/provisionally real, I'm all for it, but note, the damage is already done. — Agent Smith
Ironically, Neo had to take a magic pill to open his mind to the possibility that his reality might not be what it seemed to his brainwashed senses. Where can we find such pill in our own Matrix? :wink:↪Gnomon
Syād ... The Matrix hypothesis is when skepticism becomes fun. — Agent Smith
Ironically, Neo had to take a magic pill to open his mind to the possibility that his reality might not be what it seemed to his brainwashed senses. Where can we find such pill in our own Matrix? :wink: — Gnomon
Where can I get a prescription that that? :smile:The red pill is a metaphor for the willingness/desire for knowledge no matter what the cost. — Agent Smith
A problem with the simulation argument is that it is unclear to me why an entire civilization would choose to dedicate its resources to ancestor simulations. Not only would doing so be highly unethical and a complete waste of resources, (not to mention it would take a lot of time and resources to build this simulation) it would also be entirely pointless, given that everything that will happen in the simulation is already known, given that the simulation world is deterministic. — NotAristotle
Additionally, I do not think consciousness can be "simulated." Only living things can be conscious, not computer programs or anything contained in computer programs. — NotAristotle
everything that will happen in the simulation is already known, given that the simulation world is deterministic. — NotAristotle
More generally, there is a literal world of difference between a matrix world in which real humans are immersed in a digital world that they believe is real, and a simulated world with simulated humans - — unenlightened
There can be no escape from the simulation for simulated persons, if such are possible, and since for them it is their only world, for them it is reality, and the programmer is God. — unenlightened
What are the major arguments for and against the idea of a simulation?
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