So we have the moral person who acts through the traditions of their organized belief system and we have the person of Heraclitus, of Chuang Tzu, of Christ and of many old wisdom who acts spontaneously through their understanding. — TheMadMan
When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.
When goodness is lost, there is morality.
When morality is lost, there is ritual.
Ritual is the husk of true faith,
the beginning of chaos. — Tao Te Ching
Most people don't make decisions based on a formal system of morality. — T Clark
It is true that in modern times people base their morality less and less on formal system. I took into consideration the whole history of mankind. — TheMadMan
But still I observe that people, consciously or unconsciously, create a structure of morality for without it they feel at a loss. — TheMadMan
I'm not a good enough student of history or anthropology to be definitive, but I think my description of how most people make moral decisions probably applies during all times. — T Clark
I only acted through my understanding of the present situation' says virtue (although virtue would prefer to remain silent).
So we have the moral person who acts through the traditions of their organized belief system and we have the person of Heraclitus, of Chuang Tzu, of Christ and of many old wisdom who acts spontaneously through their understanding — TheMadMan
Is t the immediate ‘now’ always a synthesis of past and present? — Joshs
That's how it usually is. The 'now' stops being 'now' and becomes the future through the past.
The question is: Is there a 'now' that is not mechanically determined by the past, a 'now' that is constantly refreshing? — TheMadMan
A number of schools of philosophy, as well as researchers in perceptual psychology, believe that a ‘now’ divorced from memories of a past is a now with no content and no meaning. — Joshs
I'm asking if it is possible that you divorce yourself not from the factual memory but from the hurt (emotional memory) and thus you meet the situation fresh. — TheMadMan
I think that’s difficult to do because one has to have a reason and a way to modify how one approaches the situation. All we have to go on is how we have previously understood it. In order to behave freshly , we have to be able to come up with a new insight, and we can’t just will that. — Joshs
This preamble contradicts the title of your thread which otherwise doesn't make much sense to me. And the discussion so far doesn't help. Homo sapiens are a eusocial and metacognitive species, after all, so our moral concerns are adaptive and, to the extent we codify them into normative judgments and conduct, they are habits (i.e. virtues) developed by trial-and-error (i.e. praxis). Thus, morals are performative forms of understanding (re: empathy, eusociality, human health-fitness-ecology), not just abstract rules or emotive preferences.Adam and Eve ate the apple.
Now we know good and evil, right and wrong.
Morality is born. — TheMadMan
However, if the idea of going beyond morality was taken to the extreme it would be ethical chaos. — Jack Cummins
I am not sure if you are trying to advocate moral anarchy. — Jack Cummins
As far as chaos is concerned that may be the general background from which all development emerges, but even chaos theory points to patterns of order. — Jack Cummins
So, to say that morality is ignorance is contradictory because to cast morality aside would be the abandonment of reason in favour of irrationality. — Jack Cummins
So we have the moral person who acts through the traditions of their organized belief system and we have the person of Heraclitus, of Chuang Tzu, of Christ and of many old wisdom who acts spontaneously through their understanding.
I admit that such a person is the highest goal, not something easily achieved and for many, unrealistic.
So we got banished from paradise for gaining the knowledge of good and evil but maybe through our own evolution we can create the garden and be as gods. — TheMadMan
This preamble contradicts the title of your thread which otherwise doesn't make much sense to me. And the discussion so far doesn't help. Homo sapiens are a eusocial and metacognitive species, after all, so our moral concerns are adaptive and, to the extent we codify them into normative judgments and conduct, they are habits (i.e. virtues) developed by trial-and-error (i.e. praxis). Thus, morals are performative forms of understanding (re: empathy, eusociality, human health-fitness-ecology), not just abstract rules or emotive preferences. — 180 Proof
"A reason" for what? I don't see a connection to what I wrote in reponse to the OP.That is to say there's a reason. — Agent Smith
"A reason" for what? I don't see a connection to what I wrote in reponse to the OP. — 180 Proof
It seems, either there never was a God or one is being created. — Agent Smith
Knowing good and evil is ignorance in duality. — TheMadMan
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