The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking and we thus drift toward unparalleled catastrophe. A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive and move toward higher levels. — Albert Einstein (1946)
We are the cure.
Do we "retain knowledge" of our time as blastocysts? :roll:Do you have evidence that the butterfly retains no knowledge of its time as a caterpillar? — universeness
I imagine crawling is, at best, useless for flying. Maybe butterflies keep caterpillars around just to study them (e.g. "butterflygenesis") or for shitz-n-giggles (à la reality tv, stupid pet tricks, etc) or both? :smirk:Might the butterfly maintain much of the 'mind' of the caterpillar?
I would need to concentrate to see if I have any such stored memories. I will try hard this weekend after 1 or 10 single malts!Do we "retain knowledge" of our time as blastocysts? — 180 Proof
They have to land sometimes! I have witnessed landed butterfly's walk/crawl!I imagine crawling is, at best, useless for flying. — 180 Proof
Maybe butterflies keep caterpillars around just to study them (e.g. "butterflygenesis") or for shitz-n-giggles (à la reality tv, stupid pet tricks, etc) or both? — 180 Proof
there may be aspects of human consciousness that no 'created' system can reproduce. — universeness
show that 'sapience sans sentience' is the (optimal) shape of things to come. — 180 Proof
The heating of oceans and drying up of lakes-reservoirs are strongly correlated. Not "pessimism", my friend, just facts. :mask: — 180 Proof
No. I mean intelligence (i.e. adaptivity) without "consciousness" (i.e. awareness of being self-aware), a distinction I suggest in this old post https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/528794 ... and speculate on further, with respect to 'AGI', here https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/608461.Do you mean 'intelligence versus self-awareness?' — universeness
Apologies for continuing to flog this equine's carcass:We probably have passed the point of no return in some ways ... — universeness
Do you mean 'intelligence versus self-awareness?'
I just can't conceive of any value in an intelligent system that is not-self aware other that as a functional, very useful tool for an intelligence that IS self-aware. Like a computer is for a human today.
Perhaps I am missing your main point here due to my attempts to decipher/interpret the words/phrases, you choose to use. — universeness
No. I mean intelligence (i.e. adaptivity) without "consciousness" (i.e. awareness of being self-aware), a distinction I suggest in this old post https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/528794 ... and speculate on further, with respect to 'AGI', here https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/608461. — 180 Proof
"consciousness", on the other hand, is intermittent (i.e. flickering, alter-nating), or interrupted by variable moods, monotony, persistent high stressors, sleep / coma, drug & alcohol intoxication, psychotropics, brain trauma (e.g. PTSD) or psychosis, and so, therefore, is either online (1) or offline (0) frequently – even with variable frequency strongly correlated to different 'conscious-states' – during (baseline) waking-sleep cycles. — 180 Proof
What I mean by 'atavistic ... metacognitive bottleneck of self-awareness' is an intelligent system which develops a "theory of mind" as humans do based on a binary "self-other" model wherein classes of non-selves are otherized to varying degrees (re: 'self-serving' (i.e. confabulation-of-the-gaps) biases, prejudices, ... tribalism, etc). Ergo: human-level intelligence without anthropocentric defects (unless we want all of our Frankenstein, Skynet-Terminator, Matrix nightmares to come true). — 180 Proof
How do you know, it would not conclude/calculate that to be an inferior state and that functions 4 and 5 above become two of it's desires/imperatives/projects?• pre-awareness = attention (orientation)
• awareness = perception (experience)
• adaptivity = intelligence (error-correcting heurstic problem-solving)
• self-awareness = [re: phenomenal-self modeling ]
• awareness of self-awareness = consciousness — 180 Proof
If you haven't watched this US Congressional testimony by the late Carl Sagan back in 1985, consider his well-informed warnings – macro predictions – which had subsequently been largely ignored by governments and transnational corporations because of very irrational, biased, human groupthink – a metacognitive defect AGI will not be limited by) ... — 180 Proof
Apologies for continuing to flog this equine's carcass:
https://www.dw.com/en/sea-surface-temperature-hotter-than-ever-before/a-66444694 — 180 Proof
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