I've heard that people used to call "moma" Catherine the Great, Golda Meir and Angela Merkel (though I don't know if that is correct).

Finland and New Zealand were able to elect female liberals as their leaders. Both women received a lot of attention, but their stardom didn't pass the 12 month threshold :rofl:

The New York Post has the best covers.

So about all that voter fraud…. Haven’t heard a word about it. Guess the democrats “forgot” to steal this one. :lol:

Enjoy the moment buddy. :grin:

I detect curious amounts of resentment towards men in the comments. :chin: — Tzeentch

That's something dems have to deal with. If you apply feminist and black rhetoric in an election, you should expect patriarchal and white identity responses.

I have no idea how democratic countries can be run with women or men assuming to be different from the rest, but there's definitely going to be a lot of resentment if countries become California and promise people reparations (because 8 generations ago some of their ancestors were slaves).

Did anyone tell these liberals that serfdom in Europe ended with the French Revolution? Who is going to pay for reparations when 90% of the world population are the descendants of peasants who (till two centuries ago) used to be either slaves or serfs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom

Trump got roughly the same number of votes this year that he did in 2020– about 74 million. Harris got about 10-11 million less than Biden in 2020. That’s the real story, despite some inroads made among certain demographics by Trump. The turnout for Harris, like for Hillary, was low.

Collapse in Democratic Turnout Fueled Trump’s Victory

There’s no surprise as to why they would be. There was no reason to vote FOR her, and the motivation to vote AGAINST Trump, though still the correct move, wasn’t good enough.

This wasn’t a landslide, and wasn’t a mandate. But that’ll be the takeaway from the cult. But that’s a great thing— I hope they continue believing the whole country has gone “maga.”

There’s no surprise as to why they would be. There was no reason to vote FOR her, and the motivation to vote AGAINST Trump, though still the correct move, wasn’t good enough. — Mikie

I'm pretty sure campaigning with the Cheneys while snubbing the left on Gaza contributed to that. Perhaps stop trying to court this mythical sane Republican voter next time.

By all means, the Democratic Party is welcome to move further to the left next election. Openly embrace the anti-American, anti-Israeli marchers. Make Palestine and bringing down capitalism their main focus. Definitely a winning strategy -- people will be motivated and will vote in droves!

If they move any further to the left, they would just be centrist or maybe center-right. They would not be left in any European country. Not even the right in Europe would dare privatize health care.

As for Israel, you better be thankful the US donor class "supports" it, because it has no friends left and is a pariah state, for good reason. And your friends those fanatical Evangelicals are the most anti-Semitic of them all

I've started speculating that the EU is actually an oligarchy. Thoughts?

I disagree that Trump has moderated alot of his positions. In fact he seems to be moving to the extremes on issues like immigration (where he wants mass deportations) — Mr Bee

"Majority of Americans support mass deportations" (CBS).

and trade (where he wants to impose a global tariff on all goods) — Mr Bee

Trump's love of tariffs is idiosyncratic from all political angles, true. But because of that it is not polarizing in any partisan manner.

The only area where he's moderated is on abortion and social security but apart from that he's a standard Republican and governed like one in his first term. — Mr Bee

Abortion, social security, IVF, LGBT... Trump is also moving the party towards non-interventionism. RFK and Gabbard are former Democrats, to name two within his administration.

The Democrat platform isn't the problem since it remains popular (while Trump's ironically enough isn't) but Democrats aren't able to sell it as well as Trump is able to sell himself which goes back to the main problem I see for Democrats. — Mr Bee

This seems backwards to me. Trump's public persona was a liability in this election, not a boon. The Democrat platform was bad enough to strongly neutralize that liability. I am amazed at how completely it was neutralized.

Losing to Trump twice after barely eeking out a win in 2020 when they ran their "safe" candidate should be a clear sign that what they're doing isn't working. — Mr Bee

So what needs to change if "the platform isn't the problem"? A more impressive candidate and a focus on the policy proposals? I am not sure what golden policy proposals the Democrats are supposed to have in their back pocket.

It's a complex subject. The way it is currently structured is based on a system which basically gives German banks the power to control the value of the Euro based on German elite financial needs.

In an ironic twist, the European Central Bank is worse than the Fed. The only mandate the ECB has is to control inflation. At least the Fed attempts to keep unemployment low as one of its mandates, in addition to controlling inflation.

So yes, it is an Oligarchy - as everywhere else, but it has a very strange dynamic to it.

If they move any further to the left, they would just be centrist or maybe center-right. They would not be left in any European country. — Manuel

"If the Democrats move left they would only be centrist in Europe, therefore such a move would not make them left."

The U.S. is not Europe. This is not a good argument.

Not economically no. Now, or as of the removal of Roe, not even socially. If they manage to get Roe back in, then we can speak about the Democrats being left on world standards.

Of course, the US is not Europe. The US is an outlier in first world countries, failing to provide healthcare as right to everyone, among other scandals.

So yes, the US is to the right of the developed world by these standards. Doesn't mean the people are, but the system is. If you remove comparisons between developed countries, then there is no metric to say what's left or right or anything else.

I mean, for reference, anything to the right of Trump is called "radical left". That's insane.

Of course, because it was the evangelical Christians who lynched Jews on the street of Amsterdam last night. We must blame modern day anti-Semitism on the Christians or Israel itself. One group must not be named. :rofl:

Wow.

You are missing the point big time.

Should've expected it.

And ignore the evangelicals at your risk.

I live among the evangelicals in one of the most conservative, evangelical states in the US. I understand the left likes to point the finger at them for anti-semitism but that just hasn't panned out in my experience. This group is highly pro-Israel and often quite philo-semitic.

As for Israel, you better be thankful the US donor class "supports" it, because it has no friends left and is a pariah state, for good reason. — Manuel

:100: :clap:

Más alto pero no más claro si quieren.

One of the main problems on the horizon after US elections is how the artificial state will wipe out Gaza and erase towns and cities in Lebanon, legitimately, because his best friend—Uncle Sam—allows him to do so. :sad:

It's understood that Trump will back an Israeli attack on Iran.

It's a complex subject. The way it is currently structured is based on a system which basically gives German banks the power to control the value of the Euro based on German elite financial needs.

In an ironic twist, the European Central Bank is worse than the Fed. The only mandate the ECB has is to control inflation. At least the Fed attempts to keep unemployment low as one of its mandates, in addition to controlling inflation.

So yes, it is an Oligarchy - as everywhere else, but it has a very strange dynamic to it. — Manuel

I've been reading about it and find myself confused. Even proponents of the EU claim there's a lack of accountability.

It's understood that Trump will back an Israeli attack on Iran. — frank

He will back a lot of Netanyahu's reckless actions for the next four years.

It will be a nightmare.

Lo que nos toca ahora es muy jodido....

I've been reading about it and find myself confused. Even proponents of the EU claim there's a lack of accountability. — frank

Very confusing, Varoufakis and Modi have good books on the EU, but it is a bureaucratic mess. Not all of it is bad by any means, but still, highly perplexing.

Go back to the thread where you cheer a genocide— your delusions are irrelevant here.

it has no friends left and is a pariah state, for good reason — Manuel

Yep. But don’t tell that to genocide apologists, because it’s anti-semitism to oppose the murder of 15,000 babies.

As I’ve said before, the most moronic of analysts will show up claiming that Harris didn’t go far right enough. They’ll act as if moving left is unpopular (it isn’t), and a guaranteed loss (it won’t be). At least David Brooks isn’t such an idiot as to claim that.

Mikie, I'm agreeing with you. The Democratic Party needs to go further left and actively embrace the anti-Israel, anti-American masked marchers terrorizing synagogues. Gotta double down. Motivate people to the cause.

anti-American — BitconnectCarlos

:rofl:

I'm pretty sure campaigning with the Cheneys while snubbing the left on Gaza contributed to that. Perhaps stop trying to court this mythical sane Republican voter next time. — Mr Bee

Exactly. Turns out sending billions to aid a genocide isn’t as popular as zionist imbeciles think it is.

You don't think the marchers are anti-American? How many more American flags need to be burned for that to be the case?

:rofl:

Yes yes, they’re all anti-America. Probably a Red China conspiracy. Back to bed now grandpa.

He will back a lot of Netanyahu's reckless actions for the next four years. — javi2541997

Could be a nuclear war. We haven't had one of those in a while. :smile: