I said discriminating against someone on account of their membership on in a false taxonomy is an inability to discriminate between individuals, not that individuals are unable to distinguish between individuals. Rather than let the individual inform their behaviors, they let the false taxonomy do so. — NOS4A2
I'm assuming people are motivated by their beliefs. — NOS4A2
If you believe in racial taxonomies it gives reason to discriminate against its members on racial grounds.
If you do not believe in racial taxonomies it does not give reason to discriminate on racial grounds.
The Rasmusson Poll isn't a scam, but it isn't a highly rated polling organization either. — BC
A belief isn't necessarily motivating. People are influenced by their biases, if that's what you're trying to say. — praxis
We're all guilty of that to some degree, whether it be by race, sex, age, or whatever, though we can try to change our implicit biases.
Rather, claiming to not believe in racial taxonomies attempts (badly) to rationalize the status quo.
How do you parse out "belief" from "bias"? — BC
If I think that white trash make bad neighbors, is that a belief or a bias? (I kind of think so.). — BC
How do you parse out what, exactly, is motivating? — BC
Is the difference between being motivated by a belief or a bias a difference that matters? — BC
Adams saying he was going to live with other white people is hardly a remarkable stance. — BC
Better to learn from actual flesh-and-blood human beings before any judgement upon them can be made. — NOS4A2
Rather, claiming to not believe in racial taxonomies attempts (badly) to rationalize the status quo.
– praxis
How? — NOS4A2
If only 53% of white people polled believe it is ok to be black, would a black man be justified in saying that blacks people should stay away from whites? Or would we cancel him?
Racist polls invariably lead to racist reactions. — NOS4A2
I think that I'm prejudiced against white trash neighbors, for example, and I can take action to change that bias. — praxis
On the other hand, if the people next door are responsible, cooperative, and polite but you are biased against them because they are lesbians, Hispanics, convicted felons, Asians, Moslems, Blacks, Jehovah's Witnesses, or MAGA Republicans -- whatever they are -- then you should probably adjust your outrageous sexual, ethnic, convict, religious and political prejudices. — BC
It doesn't work both ways because the underclass doesn't have many options. The overclass has all the goodies. — BC
:up:Rather, claiming to not believe in racial taxonomies attempts (badly) to rationalize the status quo. — praxis
As long as scapegoating nonwhite communities is less costly psychically and economically for white commmunities than "fixing the relationship" in America, except – often temporarily – tweaked at the margins, the racism-tolerant status quo will prevail.As members of the ruling majority (and historical oppressers of blacks), it's incumbent on whites to fix the relationship. Whites have [almost all] the goodies in this society. — RogueAI
In the real world, some people are trashy. Just personally, I don't think anybody is under any obligation to think, believe, or feel positively about them. In the real world, some problems are imposed upon people and some problems are brought on by the people themselves. — BC
I don't think it works both ways. There are huge numbers of blacks still alive who remember when there was legal racism used against them. I can understand how that older group would have a negative opinion of their oppressors (Southern whites). I would be shocked if they didn't.
Employing and furthering the problem doesn’t only resist change, though, it compounds it. The only way to banish it is to quit using it. — NOS4A2
Nothing wrong with political prejudices. I assume you're prejudiced against Stalinists? Fascists? Neonazi's? MAGA Republicans believe in some pretty sketchy stuff and I have found them all to be small-minded and cruel. — RogueAI
It works myriad of ways to those who are just. The use of these categories are unjust, and for the same reason it was unjust to use them in the past. Justice doesn’t demand that a man ought to forgive those who wronged him, but he ought not condemn with the same crime those who did not. — NOS4A2
I don't fault Scott Adams for being biased and prejudiced. My assumption is that everyone -- even Baden -- is biased, prejudiced. I fault him for deciding to let his biases loose. (There was nothing spontaneous about his vlog entry.). People in a civil society are not obligated to be bias-free. They are obligated to maintain the membrane between their thoughts and their actions. — BC
Merely acknowledging race or "false taxonomies" is not the problem so if it were possible to be "color-blind" it would not solve the problem. Intentionally employing and furthering biases is done in order to manipulate the ignorant (racists who may lose more than they gain) and take or maintain the advantage over the disadvantaged.
The way to banish it is to realize what's going on and stop being manipulated, or stop being an asshole if you're one of the manipulators or one of the manipulator's bootlickers.
That's neither here nor there. Wounds heal on their own schedule. You can't force it by outlawing certain word combinations.
It’s not a sin to distinguish people by race. Is this a religious thing for you?
Realizing our implicit biases is self-awareness.
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