But, no matter, more importantly, what do you think? — jorndoe
For some reason, it seems that some (Western) communists and socialists have become apologists for Russia.
Doesn't make sense. — jorndoe
I'd be interested in why communism is or is not realistic/feasible. — jorndoe
Not for scarcity-exploiting nation-states. As you say "communism doesn't scale well". Why? I think because, simply put, material scarcity amplified by increasing population pressures – radical alienation – and all that this existential condition entails individually and collectively. Of course, in a post-scarcity world, "communism" would be unnecessary.Is communism realistic/feasible? — jorndoe
:fire:Be realistic, demand the impossible. — graffiti on buildings in Paris, May '68
As per usual, the state (the collective) is the problem, and not the cure. — Tzeentch
I think you're confusing the collective with the state. — unenlightened
As per usual the individualist denies their responsibility for others and ignores their dependence on others. — unenlightened
Less freedom, oppression, less transparency, less diversity, "enforced human streamlining", ... — opening post
As it stands, it seems that reasonably civilized societies tend to include democracy, socialism, capitalism alike. — opening post
Communism demands no individual thinking. — Christoffer
t's the fucking enlightenment again Sam. — unenlightened
How do you figure? Humans are still individuals, even if they don't fence off the commons or claim private ownership of natural resources. In a commune, each member is expected to contribute whatever they have a talent for, including intellectual endeavours, creative work, invention, etc. — Vera Mont
There is no such thing as 'collective thinking'. People may echo and imitate other people, or simply agree on certain matters, but a thought that's eventually shared still has to originate in an individual mind. We don't have any other kind. We can pool knowledge and effort, but each contribution is still individual. — Vera Mont
"Individualism" as an ideology is as illusory as "communism". — Vera Mont
There are no systems of either: all societies are collective, and to some degree dominated by a minority of privileged individuals, while the majority conforms to whatever norms are set for them. — Vera Mont
This all works on smaller scale societies, but at large scale, how do you "contribute"? What if you aren't good at contributing? What if your contribution doesn't align with the rest? — Christoffer
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