Then maybe it's time for you to change.I also don’t know what to do. I’m lost, confused, depressed, suicidal, & feel like an alien. — niki wonoto
I also don’t know what to do. I’m lost, confused, depressed, suicidal, & feel like an alien. I can’t relate to most people/Human beings. — niki wonoto
:100: :fire:There is no wasted life - there is only unappreciated life. — Vera Mont
Stop being a selfish asshole. Help your father with his struggling business in any way you can – help your family, help your brother, contribute to your community. Whatever good you've experienced and benefitted from, sir, you owe them all – which is a debt none of us can repay but we can honor by taking care of others beginning with those closest to us.I’m also basically jobless/unemployed, and not interested at all to run his (my father’s) businesses ... — niki wonoto
seeking some therapy from TPF members. That's fine, but you don't follow up. You get plenty of encouraging and thoughtful responses but you rarely respond to any of them. — universeness
As was the case for this thread too. — Mikie
:up:I also think you need therapy. One striking thing is lack of connection with others, which is an extremely important component to a happy life. — Mikie
:brow: ...Yeah, not sure if the Niki character is real, or it's just someone trying to bait folks — universeness
Yes, this is all good.I’m also basically jobless/unemployed, and not interested at all to run his (my father’s) businesses ... — niki wonoto
Stop being a selfish asshole. Help your father with his struggling business in any way you can – help your family, help your brother, contribute to your community. Whatever good you've experienced and benefitted from, sir, you owe them all – which is a debt none of us can repay but we can honor by taking care of others beginning with those closest to us. — 180 Proof
:cool: :up:... lifelong career is bullshit [...] He wanted to prove he didn't get fired because of incompetence. He wanted to prove to them that he was bored to his skull. — L'éléphant
So I guess, if anyone went through something like this, what did you do? What should I do? — rossii
Can you influence anything? Can you reason and can that reason manifest in cause and purpose?What is the rational reason not to commit suicide and live — rossii
really nobody understands my thinking or why I think this way. — rossii
I still feel haunted by my thoughts, thinking the only reason I continue to live (for now) is the fear of death. That seems like a pretty bad reason to live. — rossii
You will also avoid future joy and the positive difference you could potentially make in the lives of others.Is it rational to live, considering that I will eventually die anyway, so why postpone it? Moreover, by dying sooner, I can potentially avoid future suffering. — rossii
As a stranger to you, I have an honest answer.For what it's worth to you, I would miss your questions.why suicide or why not? — rossii
So I don't really know how to answer this question for myself - why suicide or why not? — rossii
Is it rational to live, considering that I will eventually die anyway, so why postpone it? Moreover, by dying sooner, I can potentially avoid future suffering. — rossii
I find it amazing how often people fail to see the point of existing. So they think of suicide as an "alternative". Once a person is an adult, their existence is their responsibility. (Note I said existence, not "life", for in the latter, one could be in a coma and is the charge of a medical team).We should try to exercise that same self-determination in trying to untie the knots of our own personal suffering before we choose a final solution. — Nils Loc
He can't see the cruelty he is about to inflict to his own existence, but he can see it through the life of a dog. — L'éléphant
I think @rossii has a point here. Just look at it from a totally rational point of view, i.e., with no emotions, negative or positive whatsoever. Also assume that there is no afterlife, that is no consiousness, no knowledge, no memories, no emotions continue to "exist" or "survive" after death.You will also avoid future joy and the positive difference you could potentially make in the lives of others. — universeness
no emotions, negative or positive whatsoever. Also assume that there is no afterlife, that is no consiousness, no knowledge, no memories, no emotions continue to "exist" or "survive" after death. — Alkis Piskas
What value do you place on the notion of personal legacy Alkis?You say "You will also avoid future joy". Certainly. But what is the value of it if you won't take that joy with you after you die? — Alkis Piskas
Do you think your life was well spent if it was spent, mostly helping others maintain, feel secure and feel valued and perhaps even progress, in their own life?As for the "positive difference you could potentially make in the lives of others", it is alsmost the same thing, only that it applies to others instead of yourself. — Alkis Piskas
I am glad for that.I'm certainly not an antinatalist nor a suicidal case. — Alkis Piskas
That's ok imo, as long as you are also ready to live, at any moment and make the most you can, of the time you have. Live life as a wonder and not as a curse.I enioy life but I'm ready to die at any moment. I only wish to die peacefully or instantly. — Alkis Piskas
If you mean if and how people are going to remember me, none.What value do you place on the notion of personal legacy Alkis? — universeness
I help people when and if I can and I'm happy in doing that.Do you think your life was well spent if it was spent, mostly helping others maintain, feel secure and feel valued and perhaps even progress, in their own life? — universeness
I live life as an eternal spiritual being.Live life as a wonder and not as a curse. — universeness
If you mean if and how people are going to remember me, none. — Alkis Piskas
That does not answer my 'yes' or 'no' question. Answering yes or no is quite possible as an overall judgment call, regardless of the nuances you wish to also consider.Do you think your life was well spent if it was spent, mostly helping others maintain, feel secure and feel valued and perhaps even progress, in their own life?
— universeness
I help people when and if I can and I'm happy in doing that.
Helping is a basic need in life. We see that not only in humans but in animals too. But, although in animals it is always done in a natural, instictive way, with humans it's very different. It can have a lot of faces and motives, other than being a genuine, natural and sincere action. — Alkis Piskas
Fine, as long as you appreciate that you have employed two words/concepts in that sentence that currently, have zero demonstrable, objective evidence of any existent, that has such properties.I live life as an eternal spiritual being. — Alkis Piskas
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