Where do you get the idea that I am worried about "salvation" or "enlightenment"? — Artemis
I would argue that intellectual enlightenment is the path to vegetarianism — Artemis
If you really are a consequentialist and only care about the suffering of animals, — Artemis
Again, nobody here said someone was an awful person for eating meat. — Artemis
You have to draw the line somewhere, no matter how black and white you think that is, because otherwise you're on route to justifying the Holocaust and slavery. — Artemis
Being perfectly moral sounds like enlightenment or salvation ideas to me. — ZhouBoTong
Is there another concept of personal enlightenment I should be looking into? — ZhouBoTong
TheMadFool was calling himself an awful person for eating meat...can you stop projecting my projection — ZhouBoTong
Am I wrong to assume it is obvious that meat eating is not as bad as slavery or the holocaust? — ZhouBoTong
Ever heard of the Age of Enlightenment? — Artemis
See this sort of contradicts your other statement suggesting morality is a "subjective opinion." What is it now? Is the Holocaust actually bad or is that just your "opinion"? — Artemis
Here's the real problem with moral relativism (the idea that morality is just "opinions") — Artemis
But that type of enlightenment is not some destination to be reached, which was strongly implied through much of our discussion on the subject. — ZhouBoTong
But "objective" morality doesn't really make sense. What makes it objective? Don't like half of all philosophy people view morality as largely subjective? I am not saying I am right, but it doesn't seem that outlandish? — ZhouBoTong
Moral relativism pushes the idea that I CANNOT judge another person's morals because it is all just relative to their situation. On the other hand, I feel comfortable judging other people's morals (at least to some extent) based on my subjective opinion (which may be based on certain objective facts). — ZhouBoTong
Is eating meat morally permissible? Why or why not?
Do advances in slaughterhouses by individuals such as Temple Grandin make it less ethically problematic, if it even is problematic to begin with? — darthbarracuda
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