If God is indeed a king with legions at his command why would he allow his son to mistreated? Why would christ allow himself and his devoted followers to be tortured and murdered? it is a strange salvation that involves the obliteration of the flesh for the sake of the something sacred like the soul. — Average
I know of no documented cases where Christians waged war against the roman emperors who so viciously attacked them. — Average
Should we fight when faced with an evil enemy like Micheal or should we do as Christ did and lay down our lives for the ones we love because we are taught by him to love our enemies? — Average
Should we fight when faced with an evil enemy like Micheal or should we do as christ did and lay down our lives for the ones we love because we are taught by him to love our enemies? — Average
I also believe it is right and just to defend yourself or another from an attacker, and a war may be justly waged. — NotAristotle
Perhaps christians should remember when they recite the lords prayer and repeat the words "on earth as it is in heaven" that there was war in heaven once upon a time. — Average
I don't know how you can read Jesus's teachings as anything other than total pacifism. He couldn't have been any clearer on the subject. — RogueAI
I see no problem between Christ's mission and self-defense. — NotAristotle
Serious question for you: have you ever read the New Testament in its entirety? I find that those who make such claims have almost invariably never read the New Testament. — Leontiskos
I find that those who make such claims have almost invariably never read the New Testament. — Leontiskos
if you are familiar with the four canonical gospels then you must be aware of when Jesus instructed his disciples to sell their cloaks to buy swords — Leontiskos
He must've intended for them to turn them into plowshares because... — Average
If we disregard all of the evidence that contradicts a pacifistic interpretation then our self-fulfilling prophecy will indubitably be fulfilled. — Leontiskos
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