The thing is that you're not distinguishing between my words and your interpretation of my words. You're conflating the two. — baker
In Theravada and Early Buddhism kamma is intention. Generally, only intentional actions have kammic consequences. This is why two people, externally acting the same way, could face very different kammic consequences if their intentions for doing the actions differ, respectively. — baker
What you describe looks like Jainism, like I already said. — baker
I think this has sometimes more to do with an unwillingness to engage in time-consuming explanations to people who seem hostile rather than anything else. — baker
And the attitude you've been displaying here certainly doesn't suggest that you're interested in learning about the Buddhist concepts of kamma and rebirth. So why bother? — baker
You should also know that in Buddhism, at least for monks, there are restrictions as to whom they can or should speak about Dhamma and to whom they shouldn't. Lay Buddhist people may also adopt those restrictions. — baker
If you find that the Buddhists you're talking to don't seem all that open or willing to discuss things with you, then consider the possibility that you have ticked one or more boxes on that list of restriction criteria. (In my opinion, you have.) You can hardly blame people for setting boundaries on whom they spend their time on. — baker
If they seem evasive to you, bear in mind that from their perspective, you're evasive too. — baker
I define a regressive person as someone who is uneducated, superstitious, gullible, fearful, and angry. — Art48
I have a degree in Philosoophy and a post grad degree as well, I’m not the least bit superstitious (way more interested in a scientific explanation for any phenomena than some deus ex machina storytelling), not gullible at all as any 55 year adult on this planet should not be anymore. I’m really not as afraid as I probably should be, and I’m definitely too angry, but I know it, and can control it if you’d like.
And I go to Mass every Sunday. — Fire Ologist
To show me how religion essentially holds us back, you have to show me some great advanced place far from religion where we might go. — Fire Ologist
I was taught in Catholic school that an unforgiven, unrepented mortal sin at the time of death results in hell. Do you believe that? I was also taught that intentionally missing Sunday Mass without a good reason was a mortal sin. Suppose one Sunday you skipped Mass merely because you didn’t feel like going. Do you believe that if you died unexpectedly later that day that you’d go to hell forever? — Art48
"Unrepented mortal sin leads to hell" - Catholic tradition. — BitconnectCarlos
Of course not, because hell is a fairy tale to scare the gullible, so your mini-sermon that attempts to justify hell is moot.Do we really need to blame God for hell? — Fire Ologist
It sounds as if you yourself disagree with some things the Catholic Church says in favor of your opinion of what Jesus taught. Here's Matthew 15:1-4 where Jesus is speaking. Can you justify that, too?I know all of that sounds like something a priest might say - but priests are sometimes just actually people, as ignorant as anyone else.
That doesn't sound anything like anything Jesus ever said. A grave sin that cannot be forgiven, I know it exists, but I hope I don't ever want such a thing. — Fire Ologist
Once you are an adult, God is going to see your heart and see if you sinned mortally for sake of evil itself, or if you just made a mistake, and what's more, if you say "sorry" he will forgive you immediately even a "mortal" sin. — Fire Ologist
a fairy tale...with some things the Catholic Church says...... — Art48
Can you justify that, too? — Art48
I believe the purpose of hell, Gehenna, is purification. ... I don't believe in eternal hell. — BitconnectCarlos
I don't know whether an internal apology truly covers everything. Murder a few hundred, apologize afterwards -- "we're in the clear!" The murderer won't see the true scope of what he did. — BitconnectCarlos
Wasn't Jesus in your quote asking them to think again what the law is and who is breaking it? He wasn't telling them why they were wrong. He was asking them why they were happy to enforce the law against some for eating with dirty hands, while they were not enforcing the law against others who cursed their fathers and mothers. This quote doesn't talk about Jesus' relationship to the law, or what the law is, or how or when it should be enforced, or what the result of enforcement is. — Fire Ologist
Do you believe in God? You seem to say Genesis is a lie about God, and you capitalize God. We can’t talk about what God means in the Bible if you don’t believe there is a God. Do you believe there is a God?
Or are you just trying convert me to atheism? — Fire Ologist
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