Logically speaking the argument (C) is valid - anything follows a contradiction. But it is unsound because contradictions (N & ~N) are always false. — TheMadFool
By natural order I mean the laws of nature, which is currently the domain of science. By miracle I mean the violation of natural order. Note that natural order and miracles are contradictory with respect to each other. — TheMadFool
Why is it that most people need miracles to believe in God? Why do I say this? Just to make my case, I don't think there would be any Christians if Jesus hadn't done anything miraculous e.g. resurrect after death, etc. Nor would there be any Moslems or Jews without miracles. — TheMadFool
What we can infer from this fact is that the natural order is not sufficient evidence for God.
What is natural order? Rules and laws that govern all phenomena in the universe (every time and every place). I thought the bracketed clause was understood and needed not explicit clarification. — TheMadFool
counterfactual — Terrapin Station
What say you? — TheMadFool
What is natural order? Rules and laws that govern all phenomena in the universe (every time and every place). I thought the bracketed clause was understood and needed not explicit clarification. Who in the world would think that natural order didn't implicitly include both temporal and spatial universality? Without these elements natural order would be meaningless. — TheMadFool
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