There is scientific evidence for the notion that intelligence is fractal, that our cells are intelligent, that a collection of cells in a tissue is intelligent, that a collection of tissues in an organ is intelligent, that a collection of organs is intelligent (e.g., us), and that a collection of organisms in an organization is intelligent, and if organizations join together to work together (e.g. associations) those would be intelligent, too. — ken2esq
Oh, if you think the idea of superconscious influence is totally insane, delusional, completely anti-logic, anti-science, then WTF do you call FREUD???? His famous id, ego and superego, the three parts of our mind?!! The SUPEREGO is the influence of organizations, of our society? He literally proposed that we are influenced by our organizations to which we adhere, he merely was unaware of the new scientific notion that these organizations are actually intelligent, are basically intelligent life like us, albeit they are to us as a forest is to a tree. You think Freud is insane, delusional? You think me citing notions that align with Freud should be deleted because they are too crazy and delusional?? — ken2esq
The whole is greater than its parts. We are called intelligent beings for a reason. An agent. If you're arguing that the parts make up what a human being is, then it sounds like you are committing the fallacy of composition.There is scientific evidence for the notion that intelligence is fractal, that our cells are intelligent, that a collection of cells in a tissue is intelligent, that a collection of tissues in an organ is intelligent, that a collection of organs is intelligent (e.g., us), and that a collection of organisms in an organization is intelligent, and if organizations join together to work together (e.g. associations) those would be intelligent, too. — ken2esq
The fractal nature of our biology doesn't quite work the same way. — Vaskane
Abstract
Fractal geometry allows structures to be quantitatively characterized in geometric terms even if their form is not even or regular, because fractal geometry deals with the geometry of hierarchies and random processes. The hypothesis is explored that fractal geometry serves as a design principle in biological organisms. The internal membrane surface of cells, or the inner lung surface, are difficult to describe in terms of classical geometry, but they are found to show properties describable by fractal geometry, at least sectionwise and within certain bounds set by deterministic design properties. Concepts of fractal geometry are most useful in characterizing the structure of branching trees, such as those found in pulmonary airways and in blood vessels. This explains how the large internal gas exchange surface of the lung can be homogeneously and efficiently ventilated and perfused at low energetic cost. It is concluded that to consider fractal geometry as a biological design principle is heuristically most productive and provides insights into possibilities of efficient genetic programming of biological form.
If our subordinate parts - organs, tissues, cells -- are our collective subconscious — ken2esq
Who is running the organizations?If intelligence includes consciousness, then our organizations are conscious, intelligent beings, no different from us — ken2esq
No evidence our cells are intelligent?!!! — ken2esq
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We work at the intersection of developmental biology, computer science, and cognitive science. Our goal is to understand degrees of intelligence at multiple scales of biological, artificial, and hybrid systems; we use these insights to develop interventions in regenerative medicine.
If organization(s) are intelligent, conscious beings just one step up the fractal life ladder, and thus are like any life, mortal, imperfect, desiring survival and growth and caring very little about life forms on lower levels of the ladder — ken2esq
It is absolutely NOT a very big if. Did you look at the studies on hive mind / consciousness of a hive of bees? Scientists now believe a hive of bees IS a singular, intelligent consciousness, not just the imitation of one. So if bees -- not touching, separate creatures, no physical connection, no mass brain -- give rise by being in same group, same hive, to an intelligent, conscious hive mind, how the heck do you claim it is a big "if" to suggest the VERY SAME THING happens to people? — ken2esq
.there’s no mention of the word ‘fractal’ anywhere in it. I don’t think it supports the argument you’re making — Wayfarer
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