If you accuse one person, you are expected to show evidence against that one particular person — Vera Mont
Surely — ToothyMaw
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“We will never bring disgrace on this our City by an act of dishonesty or cowardice. We will fight for the ideals and Sacred Things of the City both alone and with many. We will revere and obey the City's laws, and will do our best to incite a like reverence and respect in those above us who are prone to annul them or set them at naught. We will strive unceasingly to quicken the public's sense of civic duty. Thus, in all these ways, we will transmit this City not only, not less, but greater and more beautiful than it was transmitted to us.” — Augustaks
If we wish to understand the thought processes of the Islamic State or the Taliban, we need only read the Old Testament.
— alan1000
No that is not all we need. We need to understand as well, the neuroscience of tribalism, along with other things. — wonderer1
If we wish to understand the thought processes of the Islamic State or the Taliban, we need only read the Old Testament — alan1000
There is a tendency to think of Islam as a religion which promotes violence and intolerance, as opposed to Christianity, which is thought to be more meek, mild, and benign. — alan1000
I haven't read any and I don't know what a Chick is. Are these tracts representative of all Protestantism? Might the American perspective colour your judgment? I don't know how many people share your perspective, but I do see why you wish to support an accusation against a religion you dislike. Since I dislike them all, I consider all religious intolerance equally intolerable.but if you read enough old Chick tracts, and observe enough of the people who pass them out, — wonderer1
And a wonderfully big, rich book it is! You can fish in it for justification of any damn thing you want to do.Christianity is made up of a bunch of different people with beliefs that exist on a spectrum, but they are all derived from the same scriptures from the same book. — ToothyMaw
People who share your bias with you will accept your opinion as evidence? No doubt.That is an acceptable demand, in court. But if I comment that elderly people drive poorly, people outside the internet will not demand studies on the matter, because they know my conclusion comes not from the authority of a peer-reviewed doctor but from my eyes. — Lionino
If we wish to understand the thought processes of the Islamic State or the Taliban, we need only read the Old Testament
— alan1000
Quite a stretch don't you think?
We can't understand the thought processes of the Jews by looking only to the OT, and that's their sacred literature, as opposed to the Muslims who obviously rely upon other texts.
Every religion, culture, nature, civilization, and even person has a long complex history. You've got to look at the whole picture, from their wars, their successes, their struggles, important leaders, events, and on and on and on. — Hanover
And a wonderfully big, rich book it is! You can fish in it for justification of any damn thing you want to do.
It's the leaders who decide which bits to extol and which to ignore; the flock simply follows them, even to their own detriment, so strong is the desire to belong. — Vera Mont
It is curious however that lived experience are not enough to accept the existence of the black legend or that there is slander against Catholics or South Europeans in general. However lived experience is more than enough to accept the existence of "microaggressions" or "generational trauma". — Lionino
But it stops being curious when we realise that it is simply another example of that society's Gramscian reverance for their own minorities but contempt for many European nations. — Lionino
No one said that the lived experience of Catholics or Southern Europeans is invalid — ToothyMaw
The mass propaganda of Protestants against Catholics is well known.
— javi2541997
Is it? By whom? Which particular Protestants are waging what propaganda campaigns? — Vera Mont
but there is no evidence of a black legend perpetrated against, what? — ToothyMaw
People revere the Pope the world over, revered more so than MLK ever was — ToothyMaw
As for microaggressions or generational trauma - they are modern constructions that developed alongside an increasing desire to accommodate disadvantaged and vulnerable individuals — ToothyMaw
What do minorities and European nations have to do with each other? — ToothyMaw
but there is no evidence of a black legend perpetrated against, what?
— ToothyMaw
Black legend does not just mean smear campaign. Black legend has a specific meaning, look it up.
People revere the Pope the world over, revered more so than MLK ever was
— ToothyMaw
I don't know how that connects to my post, I didn't bring up reverence. — Lionino
As for microaggressions or generational trauma - they are modern constructions that developed alongside an increasing desire to accommodate disadvantaged and vulnerable individuals
— ToothyMaw
Yeah it is constructed aka made up, that is my point. It is not a real thing, but they pretend to undergo it because it gives them attention/benefits/privilege, and people believe them. But when a Spanish or even Russian person says that they are constantly misjudged and stereotyped in the press and movies and whatnot, people demand "evidence". — Lionino
It seems like not a just investigation but the typical bias that we see coming from the people of certain societies. — Lionino
I know what a black legend is, and I used the term correctly. — ToothyMaw
You need to supply some serious evidence for your claim that modern Catholics are the victims of such a thing. — ToothyMaw
Okay, the concepts are technically invented by a mind, but people's feelings and difficulties are as real as anything else you can perceive with your senses. To say that the difficulties that someone raised in a violent Ghetto experience are just made up because the idea of generational trauma is an idea is really stupid — ToothyMaw
Who is going to say that I am not unintentionally prophetic? — Lionino
Who are the inheritors of the crown of Castile? Do they all behave in the same way? Who here has commented on them, negatively or positively?But they quickly spread negative comments on the inheritors of the Crown of the Castile. — javi2541997
This misconception rests upon a failure of historical perspective. If Christianity today appears to be a benign and peaceful religion, it is because modern secularism and the rule of law have drawn its fangs. — alan1000
Who are the inheritors of the crown of Castile? — Vera Mont
Do they all behave in the same way? — Vera Mont
Who here has commented on? — Vera Mont
Me. I am Castilian. — javi2541997
I didn't think so!Do they all behave in the same way? — Vera Mont
No. Absolutely not. — javi2541997
Oh, I see. Telling the truth about the history of a nation. Can't be helped I'm afraid, especially as Ciceronianus is not my sock-puppet.We already discussed this, Vera... In this thread and another with Ciceronianus. — javi2541997
Telling the truth about the history of a nation — Vera Mont
If we wish to understand the thought processes of the Islamic State or the Taliban, we need only read the Old Testament. — alan1000
I agree with the OP. We can criticize terrorism and oppression taking place in the name of Islam. We can criticize "forced" conversion, inquisition and crusades which took place in the name of Christianity. But we cannot criticize Islam or Christianity on those bases. — ENOAH
Alan stated that this religion (or belief) has been - and is -, by nature, negative to its impact on the world. Just look at the examples — javi2541997
But in case the point is polemic, much good has come out of Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and so on. Right? — ENOAH
It is clear to me there are numerous examples of good tgat has come out of Christianity in the broadest sense of the word. Jesus alone. — ENOAH
Historical Jesus of Nazareth: the courage and insight to say, to Judeans, in Occupied Judea, to love even your enemies... — ENOAH
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