Looking to the future, there is then an infinity of time ahead of us in which we don't exist. Isn't this also a scary thought? — jasonm
Just playing devil's advocate with some more 'scary' thoughts... — jasonm
But its rare that anyone in any stage of their healthy life thinks they should die. — Philosophim
Why is it rare? I think you are misunderstanding "should" with wish. — javi2541997
I no longer see suicide as a rare fact... Their rates are higher than ever. — javi2541997
I think a suicidal person doesn't think "he should die" but "he wants to die," which, I guess, is pretty different. — javi2541997
Now, assume that we do not have eternal life. Then we are completely gone for an eternity. We therefore also cease to exist to never live again - *ever.* Looking to the future, there is then an infinity of time ahead of us in which we don't exist. Isn't this also a scary thought? — jasonm
If his belief system was correct (and I don't know), he had nothing to be afraid of because he was just about to start the journey of eternity with a purportedly loving God. I personally feel that if his belief system was wrong — Andrew Tyson
That sacred army, that Christ espoused with his blood, displayed itself in the form of a white rose, but the Angel other, that sees and sings the glory, of him who inspires it with love, as it flies, and sings the excellence that has made it as it is, descended continually into the great flower, lovely with so many petals, and climbed again to where its love lives ever, like a swarm of bees, that now plunges into the flowers, and now returns, to where their labour is turned to sweetness.
Their faces were all of living flame, their wings of gold, and the rest of them so white that snow never reached that limit. When they dropped into the flower, they offered, to tier on tier, the peace and ardour that they acquired with beating wings: and the presence of such a vast flying swarm between the flower and what was beyond it, did not dilute the vision or the splendour: because the Divine Light so penetrates the Universe, to the measure of its Value, that nothing has the power to prevent it. This kingdom, safe and happy, crowded with ancient peoples and the new, had sight and Love all turned towards one point.
:100: :fire:As for what we were conscious of; these were stories. Stories end. Or they live on, already in other stories, just as they were constructed from other stories [...]
The body lives on because it's not [the] body but the universe.
The Mind lives on because it's not an individual spirit but universal history.
It is only the ego, never alive to begin with, that finally becomes obsolete. Nothing feels nor experiences that loss. And, nothing was there to begin with. — ENOAH
I have heard no good reason to believe in an afterlife, so the idea isn't coherent enough to be concerning. — Tom Storm
It is only the ego, never alive to begin with, that finally becomes obsolete. Nothing feels nor experiences that loss. And, nothing was there to begin with. — ENOAH
I hope we do see, and I believe there is still room for this faint, improbable hope. — Fire Ologist
But who or what exactly is doing the hoping? And on whose behalf? And what will it see? And, to what end? And. How? How, any of it without a body? — ENOAH
If we have an eternal life, we wouldn't have a concept of time. We would not think in terms of "time". Right now, since we can't get outside of the sense of time, we are forced to hypothesize in relation to time. That's why you say it's a scary thought.Assume we die and have eternal life. Does this last for literally for *infinity*? If it does, then it never ends - *ever*. Where then will we be 1,000,000,000,000 years from now looking ahead with still an infinite amount of time ahead of us? — jasonm
No. Some OPs are not coherently written. Yours is one, sorry. I'm not trying to be rude. I am trying to say to you that your proposal in the OP is misplaced because you're writing as a mortal human, with a limited amount of time.Both scenarios are like looking into an abyss that has no end. Exactly one of those possibilities must also be true. — jasonm
This existence based on the fulfillment of others is particularly altruistic and unnecessary — Igitur
Hello Philosophim.
Can I please have any articles written by accredited scientists that state that death is final, there is nothing afterwards? — Andrew Tyson
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